[1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap

Mon Nov 15 12:17:50 EST 2010

Add my second. /

If they are willing, let's get it going.

Let me know how I can help.

Richard Gebhardt
NO 190 owned since 1980
Member of the 69Group
CORSA
Corvanactics
NTCA
MCC /

On 11/15/2010 10:29 AM, Ken Maxwell wrote:
> I would like to second (or third) Dave Newell's nominations of Steve for
> president, Jim for vice-president and John for treasurer. It sounds like a
> fine group to me!
>
> Ken Maxwell
> Louisville, KY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1969-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:1969-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf
> Of Dave Newell
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:50 PM
> To: steven at sashimi.org
> Cc: 1969 at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
>
> Hi Steve,
> I'd like to nominate you for the '69 Group Presidency. You've already made a
> great start and impressed me with your thoughtful plans. You may be
> relatively new to the scene compared to us old timers, but you seem to
> understand what we're about...preserving, documenting and enjoying every '69
> we can find. Yes, the officer responsibilities are undefined, but it sounds
> like you've got a good handle on it already. YES! An Activities Chairperson
> would be great. We could use someone focused on managing the 69 Group
> Meetings at conventions, organizing 69 displays and reunions at various
> CORSA events and handling the trophies, souvenirs etc. for all of those
> events. This was an area where Mark and Eve shone so brightly. They knew
> just the right perks to give, always made timely and personal followups with
> guest speakers, honorees etc. It would be a full time job for one person to
> do it with half as much efficiency and class as Mark and Eve always did. A
> Membership Chairman could work
>    closely with Eve as new 69s are discovered and as 69s change hands. Owners
> of newly found cars and new owners of known cars are our number one
> membership prospects. Of course, Mark did it all and never failed to follow
> through by sending new '69 owners not only sample newsletters and follow
> ups, but by making them feel like members even before they ever paid. It was
> important to Mark to keep special 69 owners on the mailing list regardless,
> such as museums and owners of historic cars in order to keep them in our
> loop. For Vice President I would nominate Jim Bartasevich, who has had many
> years of Corvair and CORSA experience to back Steve up. But I'd defer to
> Craig Griffin since he';s been nominated as President already, if Craig
> would like the VP job. It sounds like we've got a Treasurer in John
> Wingle...thanks for stepping up, John. Well, those are my recommendations
> for what they're worth. I hope they'll be a catalyst to help keep this surge
> of 69 Group enthusiasm moving.
>    Mark would be excited!
>
> Dave Newell
>
> Craig Griffin, but since he hasn't been part of this thread I'd want to be
> sure he
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: steve brown<steven at sashimi.org>
> To: 1969 at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:43:18 -0500
>
> I don't know if I can jump right in to lead this group.  Heck, I don't even
> know what the responsibilities of the different leadership positions of this
> group are.  Granted, I've got leadership experience but not with a car club
> or on line group.  Oh yeah, I'm probably one of the newer members and in all
> likelihood know far less about our 69's and only couple of the group members
> In other words, I'd need a lot of support.
> And then you all have to understand that I work full time and have three
> kids in grade school, so my time to dedicate is limited (did I mention that
> I have other hobbies too?).
>
> I would think that we need a treasurer, newsletter editor, prez, VP, and
> possibly an activities chairperson, and membership chair off the top of my
> head.  But perhaps before we go and appoint officers, we should figure out
> exactly what it is we want to accomplish and what we want out of the group.
>
> For example, I would hope we'd have a roster that we could make available to
> all of the group members, (with individuals allowed to limit the amount of
> personal / contact information they want to share).
> A periodic newsletter.  An online forum such as this, or perhaps some other
> format for group specific dialogue.
>
> We already have this forum.
>
> I'd think the next step would be to put together an updated roster.  Not an
> owners list, but a group roster of group members,where they are, how to
> reach them, and their 69s.  Include anyone that self identifies and contact
> anyone on the last know member list to find out if they want to be listed or
> not.
>
> keep the dialogue going and then start to think about a newsletter, and with
> that, costs and nominal dues.
>
> Ideas?
>
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> - Steve
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> On 11/13/2010 05:11 PM, Dave Newell wrote:
>> I'm disappointed, Ken, but I certainly understand. How about Steve Brown?
>> Dave
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "Ken Maxwell"<kobramax at insightbb.com>
>> To: "'Dave Newell'"<chevrobilia at juno.com>
>> Cc:<yenko108 at hotmail.com>,<jcwingle at comcast.net>,<ed.thompson at quarles.
>> com>,<1969 at corvair.org>
>> Subject: RE: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
>> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:36:08 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 1969-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:1969-bounces at corvair.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bob Dunahugh
>> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:05 PM
>> To: jcwingle at comcast.net; ed.thompson at quarles.com
>> Cc: 1969 at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
>>
>>
>> John, Thank you vary much. I'd volunteered but I would do an offal job
>> as treasurer.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: jcwingle at comcast.net
>> To: yenko108 at hotmail.com; ed.thompson at quarles.com
>> CC: 1969 at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
>> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 20:45:06 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bob, I've been a treasurer in the past for the local chapter of
>> CORSA, Bay State Corvairs. I'd be happy to do it for the 69 Group as
>> well if needed.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bob Dunahugh
>> To: jcwingle at comcast.net ; ed.thompson at quarles.com
>> Cc: 1969 at corvair.org
>> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:01 PM
>> Subject: RE: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
>>
>> I've been put in a similar situation as Ed. Seems simple. Should be,
>> didn't stay that way. It gets really complicated when you didn't want
>> to do it in the first place. Hopefully a treasurer will be needed.
>> John, I understand your thought, but I've been were Ed ended up. Not fun.
> Like I said, we may
>> need a treasurer, can you fill that position ?   Bob Dunahugh
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:42:06 +0000
>>> From: jcwingle at comcast.net
>>> To: ed.thompson at quarles.com
>>> CC: 1969 at corvair.org
>>> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ed, Although I very much respect your love for the Corvair, the group
>>> and
>>>
>> your honesty, I feel there is little excuse for not being able to keep
>> track of such a small treasury.
>>
>>>
>>> In order for this group to survive we will need strong leadership and
>>>
>> organization. Something that obviously has been lacking for some time.
>>
>>>
>>> John Wingle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ed Thompson"<ed.thompson at quarles.com>
>>> To: "1969 at corvair.org"<1969 at corvair.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:42:33 AM
>>> Subject: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
>>>
>>> OK, I'm "coming out."  Like many of the rest of you, I was a big fan
>>> of Mark, and knew him since the early 80's (mostly via US mail
>>> correspondence, remember that communication means?), which, I think
>>> is about the time his activity in Corvairs was going into  a decade
>>> long hiatus.  We started corresponding again, still via US mail, as
>>> he and Dave Newell were collaborating on the first edition of the
>>> 1969 FTF, I received my first copy in late 1996, and still refer to
>>> it (updated
>>> version) often.  The first time I remember meeting Mark was at the
>>> Virginia Vair Fair in Richmond in late April/early May of 1999.  I
>>> was a couple years younger than Mark, but we had been in the Army at
>>> about the same time, and had some fun w/ that.  I was immediately in
>>> awe of his knowledge and passion for all things Corvairs, especially,
>>> of course, the '69 models.  The last time I saw Mark was at the '07
>>> CORSA Convention in Detroit.  I corresponded several times w/ Eve
>>> after Mark's passing two years
>>>
>>    a
>>
>>>    go, and I now always pick up every penny I see on the ground,
>>> looking for
>>>
>> that elusive 1969, knowing it will be a message and gift from Mark!
>>
>>> OK, where's the $$?  Marvin Crooks did an outstanding job in
>>> "recruiting" me as Treasurer in the months after Mark's passing, and
>>> Sarah Beltrami to a lesser degree.  I told Marvin I did not like
>>> keeping "books" of any kind, and if I took "the job," I would not
>>> also act as a record keeper/secretary; Marvin said that was OK, so I
>>> relented.  Notice went out to the list around March of '09, that
>>> interested persons could send their "dues" to me, in whatever amount
>>> they felt comfortable.  Checks came in pretty steady for a couple of
>>> months, in varying amounts, many w/ touching notes about Mark.  (My
>>> '69 connection?  I had #3753, a white over frost green convertible,
>>> 110-glide, from 1980 - 89.  I've owned a LA-built '66 Monza sedan,
>>> 110-glide, since early 1992, it still has its original A.I.R.;
>>> ironically, many '69 model year Vairs no longer have that equipment.)
>>>
>>> I deposited the checks and communicated the names and addresses to
>>> Editor
>>>
>> Ken Amick; per my "deal" w/ Marvin, I did not make any attempt to keep
>> that data.  Some checks came in as late as around June of '09, which I
>> never deposited, and I do not know where they are now, but whoever
>> wrote them need not be concerned, they will ever be negotiated.  I
>> don't know how much I collected, but am pretty sure it was around
>> $750, or $850 tops.  I wrote and sent reimbursement checks to Ken for
>> the two issues he produced and mailed, as well as a check to a North
>> Carolina trophy shop at the request of Scott Good, for trophies
>> awarded at the '09 Convention in Jacksonville (for special '69 model
>> judging that year), which I attended.  The final check I wrote was to
>> Wade Lanning for his costs in producing and mailing (what I believe was)
> the last '69 newsletter, about a year ago, or early this year.
>>
>>> So, how much is left, I don't know?  Remember, I never wanted the
>>> job, and
>>>
>> accepted the position, "kicking and screaming," so to speak.  I'm
>> fairly sure the "balance" is less than $250.  Unless a convincing
>> "argument" is made otherwise, I will make a donation in that amount to
>> the CPF by the end of the year, and advise the group when I have done so.
>>
>>> I dread thinking of the e-mail traffic on this subject that will
>>> likely
>>>
>> follow, please be gentle, Mark, and Eve, would want it that way.  I
>> will make no more than one or two further posts to the list on this
>> matter.  Do not send address or any other update info to me; like many
>> of you, I'm sure, I'm on constant e-mail overload.
>>
>>> Mark, we luv 'ya...
>>>
>>> Ed
>>> Milwaukee
>>>
>>>
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