[1969] Blocked E-mail by the 69 moderator

Wed Nov 17 21:23:49 EST 2010

THIS is weird!  What is there to block?  This is an OPEN discussion about
reviving a chapter that apparently has a lot of support.  So we have a
censor?
Jim B.

You can fool too many of the people too much of the time. - James Thurber

-----Original Message-----
From: 1969-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:1969-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf
Of Bob Dunahugh
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:49 AM
To: 1969 at corvair.org; corsabod at corvair.org
Subject: [1969] Blocked E-mail by the 69 moderator

This is the blocked E-mail that YOUR 69 group moderator blocked so you as a
group couldn't see. The reality is that an appointed board might be best for
now. Anyway, Who is this person in charge that you as the member don't know.
( If this is blocked AGAIN.  I WILL send it out to members ONE by ONE. I to
have a list. That is a PROMISE. You have my word on it.  )     This group
needs team work to come back. NOT the blocking of the dialog that has been
going on.  My real question is. Who else that has had ideas, have you
blocked.  Is this what this group is to be rebuild on?   Bob Dunahugh   PS
I just want the group to come alive, Nothing else.

From: yenko108 at hotmail.com
To: corvair at frontiernet.net; chevrobilia at juno.com; steven at sashimi.org
CC: 1969 at corvair.org
Subject: RE: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:09:01 -0600

Are We having Dave fill the positions or are we going to have a vote. I'm
game for anything. Just asking.   Bob Dunahugh. 
> From: corvair at frontiernet.net
> To: chevrobilia at juno.com; steven at sashimi.org
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:44:30 -0500
> CC: 1969 at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
> 
> Thanks for the vote of confidence, Dave. I don't mind Craig taking the
> position of VP. I started a new job a few months ago to finish my
> "pre-retirement" plans that were interrupted when I was laid off three
years
> ago and again last year from a different company. I'm VP of my local CORSA
> chapter, ACORNs, as well as membership chairman of the local chapter of my
> professional society so I have my hands full. However, as I offered
> early-on when this discussion sputtered to life, I'd be glad to do an odd
> thing or two for the '69ers as needed.
> Jim B.
> 
> You can fool too many of the people too much of the time. - James Thurber
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 1969-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:1969-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf
> Of Dave Newell
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:50 PM
> To: steven at sashimi.org
> Cc: 1969 at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
> 
> Hi Steve,
> I'd like to nominate you for the '69 Group Presidency. You've already made
a
> great start and impressed me with your thoughtful plans. You may be
> relatively new to the scene compared to us old timers, but you seem to
> understand what we're about...preserving, documenting and enjoying every
'69
> we can find. Yes, the officer responsibilities are undefined, but it
sounds
> like you've got a good handle on it already. YES! An Activities
Chairperson
> would be great. We could use someone focused on managing the 69 Group
> Meetings at conventions, organizing 69 displays and reunions at various
> CORSA events and handling the trophies, souvenirs etc. for all of those
> events. This was an area where Mark and Eve shone so brightly. They knew
> just the right perks to give, always made timely and personal followups
with
> guest speakers, honorees etc. It would be a full time job for one person
to
> do it with half as much efficiency and class as Mark and Eve always did. A
> Membership Chairman could work
> closely with Eve as new 69s are discovered and as 69s change hands. Owners
> of newly found cars and new owners of known cars are our number one
> membership prospects. Of course, Mark did it all and never failed to
follow
> through by sending new '69 owners not only sample newsletters and follow
> ups, but by making them feel like members even before they ever paid. It
was
> important to Mark to keep special 69 owners on the mailing list
regardless,
> such as museums and owners of historic cars in order to keep them in our
> loop. For Vice President I would nominate Jim Bartasevich, who has had
many
> years of Corvair and CORSA experience to back Steve up. But I'd defer to
> Craig Griffin since he';s been nominated as President already, if Craig
> would like the VP job. It sounds like we've got a Treasurer in John
> Wingle...thanks for stepping up, John. Well, those are my recommendations
> for what they're worth. I hope they'll be a catalyst to help keep this
surge
> of 69 Group enthusiasm moving.
> Mark would be excited!
> 
> Dave Newell
> 
> Craig Griffin, but since he hasn't been part of this thread I'd want to be
> sure he 
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: steve brown <steven at sashimi.org>
> To: 1969 at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:43:18 -0500
> 
> I don't know if I can jump right in to lead this group. Heck, I don't 
> even know what the responsibilities of the different leadership positions 
> of this group are. Granted, I've got leadership experience but not with 
> a car club or on line group. Oh yeah, I'm probably one of the newer 
> members and in all likelihood know far less about our 69's and only 
> couple of the group members In other words, I'd need a lot of support. 
> And then you all have to understand that I work full time and have three 
> kids in grade school, so my time to dedicate is limited (did I mention 
> that I have other hobbies too?).
> 
> I would think that we need a treasurer, newsletter editor, prez, VP, and 
> possibly an activities chairperson, and membership chair off the top of 
> my head. But perhaps before we go and appoint officers, we should 
> figure out exactly what it is we want to accomplish and what we want out 
> of the group.
> 
> For example, I would hope we'd have a roster that we could make 
> available to all of the group members, (with individuals allowed to 
> limit the amount of personal / contact information they want to share). 
> A periodic newsletter. An online forum such as this, or perhaps some 
> other format for group specific dialogue.
> 
> We already have this forum.
> 
> I'd think the next step would be to put together an updated roster. Not 
> an owners list, but a group roster of group members,where they are, how 
> to reach them, and their 69s. Include anyone that self identifies and 
> contact anyone on the last know member list to find out if they want to 
> be listed or not.
> 
> keep the dialogue going and then start to think about a newsletter, and 
> with that, costs and nominal dues.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> 
> - Steve
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/13/2010 05:11 PM, Dave Newell wrote:
> > I'm disappointed, Ken, but I certainly understand. How about Steve
Brown?
> > Dave
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "Ken Maxwell"<kobramax at insightbb.com>
> > To: "'Dave Newell'"<chevrobilia at juno.com>
> >
>
Cc:<yenko108 at hotmail.com>,<jcwingle at comcast.net>,<ed.thompson at quarles.com>,<
> 1969 at corvair.org>
> > Subject: RE: [1969] '69 e-Group Revival Recap
> > Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:36:08 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 1969-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:1969-bounces at corvair.org] On
Behalf
> > Of Bob Dunahugh
> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:05 PM
> > To: jcwingle at comcast.net; ed.thompson at quarles.com
> > Cc: 1969 at corvair.org
> > Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
> >
> >
> > John, Thank you vary much. I'd volunteered but I would do an offal job
as
> > treasurer.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: jcwingle at comcast.net
> > To: yenko108 at hotmail.com; ed.thompson at quarles.com
> > CC: 1969 at corvair.org
> > Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
> > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 20:45:06 -0500
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Bob, I've been a treasurer in the past for the local chapter of
> > CORSA, Bay State Corvairs. I'd be happy to do it for the 69 Group as
well
> if
> > needed.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bob Dunahugh
> > To: jcwingle at comcast.net ; ed.thompson at quarles.com
> > Cc: 1969 at corvair.org
> > Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
> >
> > I've been put in a similar situation as Ed. Seems simple. Should be,
> didn't
> > stay that way. It gets really complicated when you didn't want to do it
in
> > the first place. Hopefully a treasurer will be needed. John, I
understand
> > your thought, but I've been were Ed ended up. Not fun. Like I said, we
may
> > need a treasurer, can you fill that position ? Bob Dunahugh
> > 
> >> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:42:06 +0000
> >> From: jcwingle at comcast.net
> >> To: ed.thompson at quarles.com
> >> CC: 1969 at corvair.org
> >> Subject: Re: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ed, Although I very much respect your love for the Corvair, the group
and
> >> 
> > your honesty, I feel there is little excuse for not being able to keep
> track
> > of such a small treasury.
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >> In order for this group to survive we will need strong leadership and
> >> 
> > organization. Something that obviously has been lacking for some time.
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >> John Wingle
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ed Thompson"<ed.thompson at quarles.com>
> >> To: "1969 at corvair.org"<1969 at corvair.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:42:33 AM
> >> Subject: [1969] '69 e-Group Treasury
> >>
> >> OK, I'm "coming out." Like many of the rest of you, I was a big fan
> >> of Mark, and knew him since the early 80's (mostly via US mail
> >> correspondence, remember that communication means?), which, I think is
> >> about the time his activity in Corvairs was going into a decade long
> >> hiatus. We started corresponding again, still via US mail, as he and
> >> Dave Newell were collaborating on the first edition of the 1969 FTF, I
> >> received my first copy in late 1996, and still refer to it (updated
> >> version) often. The first time I remember meeting Mark was at the
> >> Virginia Vair Fair in Richmond in late April/early May of 1999. I was
> >> a couple years younger than Mark, but we had been in the Army at about
> >> the same time, and had some fun w/ that. I was immediately in awe of
> >> his knowledge and passion for all things Corvairs, especially, of
> >> course, the '69 models. The last time I saw Mark was at the '07 CORSA
> >> Convention in Detroit. I corresponded several times w/ Eve after
> >> Mark's passing two years
> >> 
> > a
> > 
> >> go, and I now always pick up every penny I see on the ground, looking
> for
> >> 
> > that elusive 1969, knowing it will be a message and gift from Mark!
> > 
> >> OK, where's the $$? Marvin Crooks did an outstanding job in
> >> "recruiting" me as Treasurer in the months after Mark's passing, and
> >> Sarah Beltrami to a lesser degree. I told Marvin I did not like
> >> keeping "books" of any kind, and if I took "the job," I would not also
> >> act as a record keeper/secretary; Marvin said that was OK, so I
> >> relented. Notice went out to the list around March of '09, that
> >> interested persons could send their "dues" to me, in whatever amount
> >> they felt comfortable. Checks came in pretty steady for a couple of
> >> months, in varying amounts, many w/ touching notes about Mark. (My
> >> '69 connection? I had #3753, a white over frost green convertible,
> >> 110-glide, from 1980 - 89. I've owned a LA-built '66 Monza sedan,
> >> 110-glide, since early 1992, it still has its original A.I.R.;
> >> ironically, many '69 model year Vairs no longer have that equipment.)
> >>
> >> I deposited the checks and communicated the names and addresses to
Editor
> >> 
> > Ken Amick; per my "deal" w/ Marvin, I did not make any attempt to keep
> that
> > data. Some checks came in as late as around June of '09, which I never
> > deposited, and I do not know where they are now, but whoever wrote them
> need
> > not be concerned, they will ever be negotiated. I don't know how much I
> > collected, but am pretty sure it was around $750, or $850 tops. I wrote
> and
> > sent reimbursement checks to Ken for the two issues he produced and
> mailed,
> > as well as a check to a North Carolina trophy shop at the request of
Scott
> > Good, for trophies awarded at the '09 Convention in Jacksonville (for
> > special '69 model judging that year), which I attended. The final check
I
> > wrote was to Wade Lanning for his costs in producing and mailing (what I
> > believe was) the last '69 newsletter, about a year ago, or early this
> year.
> > 
> >> So, how much is left, I don't know? Remember, I never wanted the job,
> and
> >> 
> > accepted the position, "kicking and screaming," so to speak. I'm fairly
> > sure the "balance" is less than $250. Unless a convincing "argument" is
> > made otherwise, I will make a donation in that amount to the CPF by the
> end
> > of the year, and advise the group when I have done so.
> > 
> >> I dread thinking of the e-mail traffic on this subject that will likely
> >> 
> > follow, please be gentle, Mark, and Eve, would want it that way. I will
> > make no more than one or two further posts to the list on this matter.
Do
> > not send address or any other update info to me; like many of you, I'm
> sure,
> > I'm on constant e-mail overload.
> > 
> >> Mark, we luv 'ya...
> >>
> >> Ed
> >> Milwaukee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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