[1969] Are we (the '69 Vair enthusiast group) still functioning?

[Mark Corbin]

You're absolutely right. Of course, CORSA has never been good at thinking 
outside the box. Take the Air 'Vair Group for example. We're basically a 
technical self-help group, and our lifeblood is the annual meeting/tech 
session at the convention. There's usually not much that can be written on 
a/c, as it's pretty much all been said. So a newsletter can go only so far. 
Certainly not enough to support and sustain a quarterly newsletter. We are 
actually a big asset to CORSA members, even if the board doesn't have a 
clue. We'd be happy just to have an hour and a half on the Convention 
schedule for our tech session, and be done with it. But they once tried to 
kill us off by denying us that allotted time. CORSA's then president (and 
resident idiot at the time) and I quite literally all but came to a 
knock-down, drag-out physical slugfest over it, but Sarah literally had to 
step in between us. So help me, I wouldn't have hesitated in belting him, 
and without any regrets. And I don't mind saying so. Thank you, Sarah. Thus 
we were forced into becoming a by-the-book chapter, with all the BS that 
brings.

What CORSA needs is to rewrite the "Chapter Plan" so that CORSA can make 
allowances for non-traditional groups that just don't fit the existing 
rules, and to give them the leeway they need in forming, meeting, and 
functioning in whatever manner works best for their group, the "Chapter 
Plan" not withstanding. Let's face it, there is nothing wrong with the 
unconventional. You'd think that a club founded around the most 
unconventional high-volume American car built in the last century would know 
that.

-Mark

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kent Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:12 PM
To: 1969 at corvair.org
Subject: Re: [1969] Are we (the '69 Vair enthusiast group) still 
functioning?

Not to be a stick in the mud, but technically speaking, I think every
chapter / Special Interest Group for CORSA is supposed to put out a
newsletter a few times per year, to show evidence of being alive and
providing some sort of service to members. That rule was designed before
there was email or Facebook, so maybe it's time to revise the rule.

Just sayin'.

Happy Holidays,

--Kent
-----Original Message-----
From: 1969-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:1969-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf
Of Steven Brown
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:02 AM
To: 1969 at corvair.org
Subject: Re: [1969] Are we (the '69 Vair enthusiast group) still
functioning?

The group isn't dead, but it's not the same group as it has been in the
hey-day years of CORSA. We have on the order of 200 members on our Group's
Facebook page and because of it, we have been able to continue to grow our
1969 vehicle roster. Like it or not, there have been less than a handful of
messages on this email forum for the past couple of years. In fact, as far
as I can recall, this is about the only meaningful exchange we've had for at
least two years on this forum. Most of our member interactions over the past
couple of years are on Facebook because that's where they want to interact.
We are not putting any more effort into that than this; it's just grown on
it's own. Dave, John, and Jim have kept up our membership files and rosters,
and tried to put together a newsletter with close to zero  contributions
from our members. As much as a few members say they want a newsletter,
there's no significant action behind that expressed desire. It's no one's
fault - it's the way things are. We can lament it, but we aren't going to
change it either. Want a newsletter? How about sending in an article or
news?
Want a gathering at the convention? How about volunteering to organize it?

Steve Brown




On 12/19/2013 8:37 AM, Dave Cavagnaro wrote:
> I agree. I am not on Facebook, nor do I plan on joining. The Chapter
> should have a Newsletter and not rely on a social media site for
> communication. My Thoughts....
> Dave Cavagnaro
> On 12/18/2013 9:38 PM, Brent Vallens, Attorney wrote:
>> There are a lot of people, including me, who are not on Facebook.  I
>> hope that the 69 Vair club does not decide to limit membership to
>> Facebook users.
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Thompson, Ed (MKE x1231) (MKE x1231) <ed.thompson at quarles.com>
>> To: David Newell <chevrobilia at yahoo.com>; Dave Cavagnaro
>> <djcav at ptd.net>; 1969 <1969 at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 6:05 pm
>> Subject: Re: [1969] Are we (the '69 Vair enthusiast group) still
>> functioning?
>>
>> That might explain things -- I'm not "on" Facebook, and have no
>> intention to do so.  Nor am I LinkedIn (extremely annoying), or do I
>> Tweet (though I might if I had a pet parakeet), etc.
>>
>> From: David Newell [mailto:chevrobilia at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:chevrobilia at yahoo.com?>]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:00 PM
>> To: Thompson, Ed (MKE x1231); Dave Cavagnaro;1969 at corvair.org
>> <mailto:1969 at corvair.org>
>> Subject: Re: [1969] Are we (the '69 Vair enthusiast group) still
functioning?
>>
>> Ed and all,
>> I've been getting emails for posts to the 69 Group facebook page, but
>> I fear that if you're not on FB (I'm only on in the least capacity
>> possible!) the 69 Group members who aren't might be left out. Could be
wrong!
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:47 PM, "Thompson, Ed (MKE x1231)"
>> <ed.thompson at quarles.com
<mailto:ed.thompson at quarles.com><mailto:ed.thompson at quarles.com
<mailto:ed.thompson at quarles.com?>>> wrote:
>> That's a good thing, I just don't recall receiving any '69 Group
>> communications, of late.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> ] On Behalf Of Dave Cavagnaro
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 7:38 PM To:1969 at corvair.org
>> <mailto:1969 at corvair.org><mailto:1969 at corvair.org
>> <mailto:1969 at corvair.org?>>
>> Subject: Re: [1969] Are we (the '69 Vair enthusiast group) still
functioning?
>>
>> I am still here...... Dave Cavagnaro
>>
>> On 12/18/2013 6:57 PM, Thompson, Ed (MKE x1231) wrote:
>>> Ed
>>> Milwaukee
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