CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Jason Cesana]

Ward makes a good point. Plus if we get the awards done during the show the
banquet will not take too long.
Jason

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On Behalf Of EDWARD BOURGONDIEN
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:04 PM
To: Vairtec Corporation
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Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)

Brian, I think movingthe concours to Friday is good because it makes it
posable to have the awardsready to give out on Saturday during the car
display or whenever.  I like the convention ending with the car display, it
was very popular in Iowa and everyone was really enjoying themselvs.  There
wil many more in the car display then the concours and in Iowa some concours
cars were on display but not in the peoples chioce.  Bob, I agree the
judging system takesway to long andother major car clubs do a much quicker
event.  We need to look at what they do.  From what I've read from those
that attended Denver you guys did good!

Ward Bourgondien



On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Vairtec Corporation
<vairtec at comcast.net>wrote:

> Brian commendably brought an open mind to his observations of the 
> Denver concours and his powwow with the key people.
>
> I understand all the reasons put forth for which moving the concours 
> earlier in the week.  I don't consider the "cars will get dirty" 
> reason to be legitimate, but as regards scoring, tallying et al I
understand.
>
> Further, I understand that, to quote Brian, "totally reforming the 
> concours scoring system" is not an option readily available to us.
>
> Yet, as far as I am concerned, totally reforming the concours scoring 
> system is what CORSA should be doing.  If the concours, by CORSA's own 
> definitions its showcase event, cannot be conducted in a single day 
> (like very other major concours nationwide), cannot be conducted on a 
> schedule that makes it accessible to the greatest number of its 
> members (which is a weekend day), cannot be conducted where the 
> greatest promotional impact can be achieved (which is as the 
> culmination of a convention), then it is the concours that is flawed, 
> not our convention schedule.
>
> Scheduling the concours for the benefit of the organizers, instead of 
> for the benefit of the participants and the spectators, is wrong all 
> the way around.  If it is difficult for score and tally a concours on 
> Saturday, then the scoring and tallying process is the problem.
>
> After all, there was a time when CORSA routinely did its concours -- 
> with more cars than we see today -- on the weekend, and there are all 
> those other major car shows that are conducted on weekends.
>
> The CORSA concours process has grown to a preposterous state.
>
> I had hoped, when at our very first all-hands meeting early last year 
> there was near-unanimous support for the idea of a convention-ending 
> big car show that included the concours, that CORSA would embrace this 
> grassroots support for changing the status quo.  Sadly, CORSA and its 
> concours committee, despite what appears to have been a meeting with 
> Brian that was largely positive in tone, continues to be a slave to 
> the process instead of to the greater membership.
>
> Yes, moving the concours to Friday will be easier.  Yes, we can 
> dovetail the concours judging with our planned "Corvair Fun Day" 
> activities.  But the show on Saturday will be smaller as a result.  
> The show on Saturday will be anti-climactic as a result.  The 
> convention, instead of ending with a bang, will just kinda peter out.
>
> I vote no.
>
> --Bob Marlow
>
>
>
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