CORSA 2012: More report

[Ken Schifftner]

Brian:

Additional things regarding Concours:

1. We judged about 42 vehicles using only two crews (one for Earlies and one for Lates).  We'll likely have over 50 vehicles.  If we had four (4) crews it would be much better.  I think we need investigate recruiting more judges from the local clubs.

2. For Plan B for weather, maybe consider leaving part of the Exhibit Hall (if we have it) for inside Concours (even if drive through).



Ken Schifftner


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>From: Brian <bmoneill at juno.com>
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>Watched the scoring today.  They had a runner --only one.  Old nice guy who waited until he had a handful of sheets.  An hour delay while efforts made to network 7 computers.  Once posting started seems to go OK.  Posters had suggestions and volunteered to work with us next year.  Situation developing.  More after finish of concours and posting of data.
>
>---------- Original Message ----------
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>Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:40:10 -0400
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>On 7/27/2011 9:07 AM, Ken Schifftner wrote:
>
>> Harry, I'm told, has set up a scoring computer that is almost real-time.  A "runner" will bring the composite score sheets to the tabulator so the scoring is done as the Concours proceeds rather than later. The forms will be initialled and the judge(s) will be right there so if a question occurs it can be resolved quickly.
>
>Oh -- in other words, just like we did it at the 1984 convention, where 
>the concours was held on Saturday and the tallying was completed in 
>plenty of time for the banquet.
>
>We had three computers set up, each pre-loaded with templates of the all 
>the judging sheets that were programmed to "know" the correct range of 
>values that could be entered in any block.  Our data-entry people were 
>not "Corvair people" and had no idea what all these numbers signified, 
>they didn't need to, they only needed to enter the data from the paper 
>sheets accurately.
>
>With runners bringing the sheets to the tallying room as soon as each 
>sheet was completed, the scoring of the concours was finished less than 
>5 minutes after the last sheet arrived, and several HOURS before the 
>banquet.
>
>5 minutes in 1984 vs 9 hours in 2010.  It's time to go back to the future.
>
>Now, admittedly, the scoring criteria today is far more complex.  Where 
>in 1984 each unit sheet had X number of entries, today the sheets have X 
>times 3.  Where in 1984 there was one sheet per judging unit, today 
>there are different sheets for each distinct body style as well as for 
>each judging unit.  So it will be a more complicated process, and there 
>will be reasons to look for ways to streamline it.  But, I am convinced, 
>it both CAN be done and MUST be done.
>
>It doesn't take countless hours to tally the scores at Pebble Beach and 
>it shouldn't at Sturbridge, either.
>
>An aside:  The tallying process in 1984 was so painless that we 
>second-guessed ourselves.  It was too easy.  Something must be wrong.  
>So during the banquet but before the awards we pulled all the sheets for 
>the best-of-show winner and re-tabulated that car, entirely by hand.  It 
>matched the computerized tally perfectly.
>
>Keep an eye on the tallying process in Denver, Ken, and let us know what 
>good ideas we can use and what pitfalls we should avoid.
>
>--Bob Marlow, 1984 Concours co-chair
>
>
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