CORSA 2012: Draft Schedule

Thu Feb 16 19:46:04 EST 2012

Brian:

We need to have the Concours set up close to what I suggested or it won't work.

I have labored to coordinate this with the key people involved and I have at least acceptance.

We could possibly list the Friday AM Classification but at the Participant's meeting we'll discourage it.  Larry Claypool does that part and we don't want to log jam the classification just before the Concours.  We can do Unit 6 with three teams, anytime.

I don't understand the "Day Trippers" comment. If the "Day Trippers" arrive only on Friday, how will they be able to attend the Participant's Meeting on Wednesday?  That meeting is where we get it organized.  The Day Trippers won't have packets, scoring sheets or be in the computer....when will they register?  If they pre-register for just the day, we'll know and have them on the list for the Classification Friday AM.  They can't just arrive at 8:00 or 8:30 AM and join the Concours.  There is planning that is required.

Just because Classification starts at 1:00 PM on Thursday doesn't mean the people have to line up at 1:00 PM.  The early start was set up for the folks NOT in the Rally.  At the Concours Participants Meeting the folks will be told to show up rested after the Rally.  We'll be there for Unit 6...have fun.  Those who don't go on the Rally can go through Classifcation at their leisure on Thursday then partake of other events....for the Concours judges, these folks have then been helped, reducing the remaining.

We do expect a surge of vehicles after the Rally.  Some of the judges themselves will be in the Rally.  We do expect some "hardship' cases as well (mechanical or otherwise).  For those folks we can do added Classification Friday AM.

We don't have to mention the Placement on the Concours Field but I intend to mention that in an article cleared through Al Lacki to appear in the Communique.  This will give the participants advance notice that we expect them to park the vehicles on the Concours field Thursday and leave them there.  It is another method of getting them to stay for the Clam Bake that will be held thereafter.

You asked me to be Concours Chairman and that is the way I want it.

Ken Schifftner

-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian <bmoneill at juno.com>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2012 2:35 PM
>To: vairtec at comcast.net
>Cc: conv-2012 at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Draft Schedule
>
>I am in complete agreement with Bob on this one.  I might have indicated I agreed with Ken's suggestion but after re-consideration ---this ist the way to go.
>
>---------- Original Message ----------
>From: Vairtec Corporation <vairtec at comcast.net>
>To: conv-2012 at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Draft Schedule
>Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:07:47 -0500
>
>Ken, with all due respect I object to your recommendations concerning 
>the scheduling of concours classification on Thursday.
>
>At the very least, listing the concours classification process as 
>beginning prior to the conclusion of the road rally will cause some 
>people to skip the road rally because they fear being "late" to 
>classification.
>
>At the worst, it is yet another example of how CORSA permits the 
>Concours to ride roughshod over everything else.
>
>So, how would I list the Thursday classification on the schedule?
>
>"Concours Classification:  Conclusion of Road Rally through 5:30 PM"
>
>In my view you can start as early as you want, but what you can't do is 
>PROMOTE an early start.
>
>You'll note that I also dropped the reference to "placement."  The 
>"placement" information is too much to put on the schedule; let's simply 
>include that information in our promotional efforts, registration 
>packets, and the like.  We should be able to disseminate the "placement" 
>option adequately.  If it is on the schedule some people might 
>mistakenly believe that parking their car on Thursday is mandatory.
>
>On a related matter, I believe that offering a Friday morning 
>classification option is vital, to serve the needs of participants who 
>may be "day-trippers" from the region (they draw 100+ cars to the 
>Clark's one-day show!) and participants who may have had a late road 
>rally experience.  So the concours might run into the afternoon; it 
>really is not likely to be unbearably hot on a July day in Massachusetts 
>under trees on a lawn alongside a lake.
>
>--Bob
>
>
>On 2/16/2012 6:50 AM, Ken Schifftner wrote:
>> Ron:
>>
>> Another tweak...or two.
>>
>> Regarding Concours, we'd like to start early on Thursday for the folks not in the Rally.  We'd then do Classification for the Rally folks as they return.  We'll give these instructions at the Participants meeting on Wednesday.
>>
>> Soooooo, Thursday would be
>>
>> Concours Classification and Placement on Concours Field:  1:00 PM to 5:30 PM
>>
>> Folks can go to meetings...certainly once their vehicle is in place.  If Larry Claypool hasn't returned from the Rally and we need to Classify a vehicle that arrived early, we'll place a marker sheet on that vehicle for Larry to classify.  No big deal.  The shuffling of vehicles will be on Thursday...we'll have time.
>>
>> For Friday, we are trying to avoid the afternoon heat, soooo
>>
>> Friday: Concours Set up:          7:30AM-8:30AM
>>          Concours:                 8:30AM-1:00 PM
>>
>> For Friday, the vehicles will already be on the Field. I'd like to drop the extra "official" classification time. If we offered Classification Friday AM I'm afraid too many folks will wait thus delaying the Concours start. The early Classification is only for the stragglers or hardship cases and we'll verbally offer that at the Participants meeting.
>>
>> Can these adjustments be made....?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Ken Schifftner
>>
>>
>
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