i think lon had clear ones available. i bought a pair a couple conventions ago and they got broken in half before i got home. i may still put red reflector tape on them and try them out. beats the price of new ones. yes van and truck are the same. i have parted out some real bad salty ones over the years. i have a 63 rampy and 64 van. pictures at a website N2VZD . regards tim colson