[FC] Re: Corvan versus Greenbriar and more

[Paul Steinberg]

I also agree that the FC's were expensive to manufacture, but so was the rest of the Corvair line.  At that time, GM was more interested in putting out a quality product than it was worried about cost to return ratio.  GM was being run by motorheads and making some of the best cars in the world, and doing it profitibly.  Today, they are run by bean counters that know nothing about manufacturing a quality automobile, but only are interested in the bottom line.  This is why GM is in financial trouble.  ..... Paul in CT
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kent Sullivan 
  To: corvanatics at corvair.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:40 AM
  Subject: RE: [FC] Re: Corvan versus Greenbriar and more


  Agreed--but higher production cost is not one thing the FCs needed. They
  were very expensive to make as compared to other vehicles of similar size /
  weight class.

  --Kent
  -----Original Message-----
  From: corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org
  [mailto:corvanatics-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Ben's Bus
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:48 AM
  To: David Ziegler, III; EconoUSAParts at aol.com; corvanatics at corvair.org
  Subject: Re: [FC] Re: Corvan versus Greenbriar and more

  Dave-

  I think this was one more way we can determine that quality and innovation
  were first with these trucks and vans. Chevy didn't want the goofy door
  arrangement that was mentioned on the Fords when interchanged side to
  side...GM  made the special doors for right and left positions so everything
  was in sync. While this did hurt the interchangeability factor, it shows a
  much closer attention to detail and customer ease of use. Further, when the
  second generation of GM vans came out, the flat front was kept, the engine
  moved front, and I don't think they offered an eight door version with these
  '65-70 vans.

  How was the First State Show. Sorry we could not attend this year.

  Ben Stiles

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "David Ziegler, III" <dziegler3 at hotmail.com>
  To: <EconoUSAParts at aol.com>; <corvanatics at corvair.org>
  Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:10 PM
  Subject: RE: [FC] Re: Corvan versus Greenbriar and more


  > Corvair vans have different doors from side to side. On my 8 door
  Greenbrier
  > the front doors open before the rear doors on both sides.
  >
  >
  >
  > Dave Ziegler
  > CORVAIR THERAPY
  > mechanical repair, light restoration
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > >From: EconoUSAParts at aol.com
  > >To: corvanatics at corvair.org
  > >Subject: [FC] Re: Corvan versus Greenbriar and more Date: Thu, 24 Aug
  2006
  > >21:49:54 EDT
  > >
  > >  "Paul Steinberg" <noahsarkinc at earthlink.net> wrote;
  > >
  > >       I once saw a FC/Greenbrier that had the side doors reversed, 
  > > so
  the
  > >third side door would have to be opened before the middle side door 
  > >would open.
  > >I was confused as to how this was accomplished at the time, but after 
  > >seeing a
  > >8 door van, I realized that they had swapped the left side doors for 
  > >the right side doors.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >        Paul,now that's really odd to say the least. All early 8 door
  vans
  > >I
  > >ve seen(Dodge,Ford,GM) use the same doors for both sides and even the
  rears
  > >so
  > >all are interchangeable. That means they open differently when 
  > >installed
  on
  > >the drivers side, ie; the rear door opens first on drivers side only. 
  > >In other words,it's always the right hand door that opens first. I 
  > >realize Corvair vans have a smaller rear door setup so those cant 
  > >interchange with side doors.
  > >         Perhaps GM figured out their obvious production error with 
  > >that
  8
  > >door Corvair van option and corrected it when they produced the new 
  > >Chevy/GM van lineup in 64 which pretty much mimmicked the Ford lineup 
  > >as did the Dodge's.
  > >Granted both GM and Dodge improved on Ford's version but they had 3 
  > >years to figure out the improvements too. Then Ford improved on both 
  > >of those with it's
  > >68-74 engine forward models and that's basically the same style van 
  > >most companies still make today only with longer hoods, but that's 
  > >another
  topic
  > >all
  > >together.
  > >
  > >.
  > > Tim in Ky
  > > Econo USA Parts
  > > Your used 61-67 Econoline parts source  Constantly parting out E100 
  > >vans and trucks  A100 parts also available
  > >
  > > Ebay Falcon1966
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