[FC] pulling to the left when braking 3....

[Ron]

Bearing?  Not unless the wheel shakes and wobbles!

RonH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Forgey" <jforgey4 at yahoo.com>
To: "Dale Dewald" <dkdewald at pasty.net>; <corvanatics at corvair.org>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:01 AM
Subject: Re: [FC] pulling to the left when braking 3....


> Hey Dale,
>
> Thanks for adding some history - I'll continue the
> story - purchased the van in fall 2004 - there were no
> brake issues until this past late August 2007 when the
> pulling started out of nowhere. It was a hard pull to
> the left especially when having to apply the brakes
> quickly ( no veering). As Dale said the brakes were
> working perfectly before that so I had never dealt
> with them.
>
> Everyone ( on Corvanatics and otherwise) suspected a
> wheel cylinder issue on the right front - when I did
> the front brakes it was definitely time and while I
> was under there thought it was best to change the
> front lines as well. And most people thought it best
> to change the rear hardware and hoses etc, as well.
>
> Primary and secondary shoes have all been checked out
> and are correct - I had some very experienced CT CORSA
> members look at the work with each step as I don't
> want to mess with brake problems when I am on the
> road,  I like to know I'm gonna stop.
>
> As I said after swapping the front drums the van
> stopped just fine - took it to upstate NY car dhow -
> about 250 miles round trip and no problems - two weeks
> later I'm going to the grocery store and it does the
> same thing all over again.
>
> When I put the front end up on Saturday I had my wife
> apply the brake pedal and check to see if both wheels
> were stopping - they were. So I am guessing that the
> left is grabbing sooner - or harder - than the right -
> did a quick adjustment to make sure things were the
> same on both sides - and it still pulls - if I let go
> of the steering wheel it;s like the van is turning
> itself left.
>
> I go back to my original question - since the bushings
> are pretty new, the brakes are all new - is there any
> chance it is a front wheel bearing?
>
>
> Jim Forgey
>
> PS - sorry for the long email
>
> --- Dale Dewald <dkdewald at pasty.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks,
>>
>> Maybe I should add some history to this Greenbrier
>> since I was the previous
>> owner and sold it to Mr. Forgey in the fall of 2004.
>>
>> 1998: I purchased this GB in Sacramento, CA from Jim
>> Pennell and drove it
>> home.  It was mostly stock but with a rebuilt
>> 110/4-speed/3.27
>> drivetrain.  The brake system was, for all practical
>> purposes, daily driver
>> stock.
>>
>> 2002-2003: I rebuilt the F & R suspensions
>> (bushings, ball joints, etc) and
>> brake system (wheel cyls, hdwe, shoes).  A dual MC
>> kit from Clark's was
>> installed. The lines were flushed and refilled with
>> silicone fluid.  The
>> brakes were working perfectly from this time until
>> the sale of the vehicle.
>>
>> Dale Dewald
>> Hancock, MI
>>
>> At 17:19 5/18/2008 -0700, Chris & Bill Strickland
>> wrote:
>>
>> > >My Greenbrier is pulling to the left again - just
>> a brief history -
>> > started in the fall of 2007 ...
>> > >
>> >And before that?  I.e., did you buy the brier in
>> the summer of '07 or
>> >have you had it for fifteen years, driving it
>> regularly, doing nothing
>> >to it, and it starts this pulling out of the clear
>> blue?
>> >
>> >It does seem like you have replaced everything that
>> would be the likely
>> >culprit, but either you haven't replaced the defect
>> that caused the
>> >problem, or the new parts you used were similarly
>> defective (like
>> >unmatched bore diameters in the wheel cylinders),
>> or similarly
>> >incorrectly installed (like a secondary shoe in the
>> front, perhaps just
>> >like the old ones came off).
>> >
>> >Other than the possible wheel cylinder issue,
>> generally you are talking
>> >about contaminated linings, hardware issues, or bad
>> hoses.  Since, I
>> >assume, they bled fine when all this was completed,
>> the steel crossover
>> >brake line shouldn't be plugged.  You didn't
>> install a dual master
>> >cylinder and hook the front brakes to
>> separate/different circuits did you?
>> >
>> >I really don't see how the bake drums could cause
>> the problem,
>> >especially since you have swapped them side to
>> side, nor would I think
>> >the wheel bearings would be an issue, unless they
>> are bad in other ways.
>> >Have you swapped tires?
>> >
>> >Now, there are a couple things you could do to help
>> tell what is going
>> >on -- you and a reliable (sighted) friend need to
>> take the brier to a
>> >gravel parking lot or such -- gravel road, gravel
>> driveway, etc --
>> >gravel, or maybe if you still have some ice around,
>> ... easy to leave
>> >skid marks in gravel though -- and by repeated
>> brake application you
>> >need to figure out whether the left front is
>> grabbing or the right front
>> >is not working.  Possibly a problem in the rears,
>> but not as likely,
>> >which is good because there is less stuff in the
>> front to cause issues.
>> >What happens in reverse?
>> >
>> >Bill Strickland
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