[FC] Tire Safety

Ken Hand vairmech at aol.com
Sun Feb 6 13:03:01 EST 2011 

 Ah, But look at what was done to the vehicle to un-bias the traction of the vehicle. Studded snows on the front and what was on the rear? Half wore out street tires? Guess what? Any car will spin when you do something like that and then put an inexperienced driver behind the wheel. Good comparable tires should have been installed on the rear also. Even then inexperience will still prevail.
 

Ken Hand
248-613-8586
www.corvairmechanic.com
 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: dennis dorogi <dfamily at fairpoint.net>
To: corvanatics at corvair.org; Ken Hand <vairmech at aol.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Safety


I disagree. My daughter needed tires on her 96 Prism (was getting stuck often) and the local (excellent) mechanic recommended studded snow tires for the front .   I seldom disagree with him but I did this time.  Sure enough Sara lost control on a slippery road, the rear end completely lost traction (great traction on the front) and she slid off the road rear end first into a highway sign (she paid for the sign!).   Lesson learned. 
 
On front wheel drive cars I think the good tires should be on the rear.  It is better to get stuck a few times than to slide off the road.  I guess you can blame my daughter for her lack of driving skills, but I think the tire situation contributed to her accident. 
 
Dennis Dorogi 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hand" <vairmech at aol.com> 
To: <corvanatics at corvair.org> 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:36 AM 
Subject: [FC] Tire Safety 
 
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> I have to say, I agree. But, you have to look at what the auto > manufacturers have built into all cars for all the stupid people out > there. The manufacturers have already built in front end push, even on > your front wheel drive cars that should have more steering traction than > anything else, the front end will slide way before the back will. All this > is, is big brother watching out for the general public that won't take the > time to learn how to drive properly. They want everyone to see what they > are going to hit so the air bags will go off. The safest way to hit > anything is with the front of the car, except maybe our FC's. 
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> Ken Hand 
> 248-613-8586 
> www.corvairmechanic.com 
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike Clark <mclark67 at charter.net> 
> To: [FC] group <corvanatics at corvair.org> 
> Sent: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 10:48 pm 
> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Question Drags On 
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> That video is flawed about as much as the Malibu/59 Chevy video and the > NBC 
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> video of the fireworks-started gas tank fire in the Chevy pickup. 
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> If you are driving on a slick road, you wouldn't be maintaining 45mph. > You 
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> most certainly would feel the back end creeping out, just as you'd feel > the 
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> front end plowing.  From the beginning of time until recently, the > accepted 
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> thinking was two new tires went on the rear.  I'm sure they did plenty of 
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> testing to support that.  And now somehow physics has changed and it's all 
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> different.  Give me a break. 
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> If the new thinking is supposed to be a bandaid for people who don't know 
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> how to drive, Michelin is doing the driving public a severe misservice. 
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> Bottom line, the driver has to be responsible for what happens when he's > in 
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> control of his automobile. 
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> Mike 
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> ----- Original Message ----- > 
> From: "Bill Chellis" <chelvis at camano.net> 
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> To: <corvanatics at corvair.org> 
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> Cc: "Tim" <N2VZD at aol.com> 
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> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:36 PM 
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> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire Question Drags On 
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>> Hi Tim: 
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>> I have pasted a link to what Michelin says about which axle gets the 2 
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>> new tires. 
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>> http://www.michelinman.com/tire-care/tire-saving-tips/replacement-questions/ 
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>> It's at the bottom of the page. Click on the link to the video. 
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>> Its quite the eye-opener. 
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>> I can tell you from a real life experience, their advice changed my 
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>> mind. 
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>> Bill Chellis 
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>>> Message: 4 
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>>> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 05:41:27 -0500 (EST) 
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>>> From: N2VZD at aol.com 
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>>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire question drags on 
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>>> To: corvanatics at corvair.org 
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>>> Message-ID: <1a183.46c61bb.3a7e8357 at aol.com> 
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" 
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>>> not seeing those tires , the first important thing  (at any cost!) 
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>>> is  get 
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>>> them off the car , let alone the front.  once a radial tire starts 
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>>> wearing 
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>>> improperly , it will continue to wear that same way , even if put in 
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>>> another position. in other words that thinnest spot will continue to 
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>>> wear  first. 
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>>> also , if tires are different , i ALWAYS want the best on  front. 
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>>> i want nothing but safe tires and brake systems on my cars , after a 
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>>> few 
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>>> very bad things i have seen , or heard of in my life.  no fun 
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>>> watching the 
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>>> car in front of you loose brakes or steering , ending up in serious 
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>>> trouble..let  alone being in it! 
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>>> keep your eyes and ears open to problems of any kind on any 
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>>> vehicle , new 
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>>> or old. i slight noise (tire , bearing , whatever ) can become unsafe 
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>>> without  any further warning. ( this thread could really drag on ..) 
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>>> regards, paranoid tim 
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>>> Message: 5 
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>>> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 08:52:09 -0500 
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>>> From: Ben's Bus <bensbus at verizon.net> 
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>>> Subject: Re: [FC] Tire question drags on 
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>>> To: corvanatics at corvair.org 
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>>> Message-ID: <4D4D5609.6010509 at verizon.net> 
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>>> Thank you, Tim, and all for your thoughts on this. It was not my 
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>>> intention for it to drag on...just wanted your insights. Now I know 
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>>> how 
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>>> I wish to proceed from here. 
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>>> I thought, though, that these chat groups were for the purpose of 
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>>> chatting- on and on if desired- about topics of interest and general 
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>>> specific knowledge. 
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>>> Sorry if I misunderstood. 
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