[NoVa-Corvairs] August Meeting and Work Completed

Justin Paul jp0181 at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 19 18:35:06 EDT 2012 

Lol thanks Richard for real!

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On Aug 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Richard Widman <rwidman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Justin, you may have tried some of this, but I've dealt with with carbureted engines in the middle of nowhere (mountains of Bolivia) for more than 40 years. Eventually you figure out how to get home, no matter what MacGyver procedure you have to come up with.
> 
> First step is a simple siphon from a gallon jug on the roof by rubber hose to the carbs. In this case two hoses. (I've had a passenger hold the can on the roof of a pickup for 100 miles or more). If everything runs fine, your problem is before the carbs, so move to next step.
> 
> Connect a hose from that can to your fuel pump inlet. If it runs, lower the gallon jug do the road. If it stops, you have a fuel pump problem, replace it. If it still runs, next step.
> 
> Put your gallon jug near the tank and pul the line from the tank, putting it in the jug. The tank will be draining if you don't put a stopper on it or a hose and a pair of vise grips (or bend the hose over and wrap it. If the engine runs fine, your problem is in the tank. If it doesn't run, you have clogged lines or a vacuum leak.
> 
> If you have determined it's in the tank, drain it, lower that side of the tank (you might not have to on a 60 that has an original tank -- I think you said it was a 60) and take out the sender to inspect the sock and any other crud in the tank. The tank may need cleaning and sealing. The sending unit comes out with a half dozen screws and they only line up one way to put it back. If for any reason you mess up the gasket, it can be made with off the shelf gasket material in a few minutes. Don't use sealants.
> 
> It may look intimidating, but it isn't really. Your motivation is getting the car going. Mine was getting to food and shelter in my 55 Land Rover and later in other vehicles.
> 
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> On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Justin Paul wrote:
> 
>> Darrin.
>> 
>> I can try to get a hold of some jack stands and a jack, but definitely don't feel comfortable trying check the lines tank and pump by myself. I'll have to figure something out. This being as small of an issue as it is bothers the hell out of me for real after all the engine work that has been done. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Justin Paul <jp0181 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you darrin. I will check all the above.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:47 AM, Darrin Hartzler <dhartzler at ifc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Just to add, when we took that short ride, the pumps were working as that
>>>> is how we kept it "going" til we used up all the fuel in the well.  Don't
>>>> get discouraged.  Engine seems good, just needs fuel delivery.
>>>> 
>>>> Darrin
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:45 AM, "Darrin Hartzler" <dhartzler at ifc.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then fuel is no getting fro the tank to the carbs an you have to drop the
>>>>> tank or at least pull the gas gauge sender/pick up tube from the tan,
>>>> blow
>>>>> out the line and take a look in the tank and see what is going on.
>>>> should
>>>>> idle if it ts getting gas to the carbs.  No idle means that the pumps
>>>> won't
>>>>> do any good yet, though still needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not hard to do, but you will need a floor jack and some jack stands.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sucks, but you now have to work from the carbs back to the tank to find
>>>> the
>>>>> starvation issue.  Could be a bad fuel pump as Doug was saying as well.
>>>> If
>>>>> can swap in a known good one that will answer for the pump...then move to
>>>>> the tank.  You can still sometimes find them at advance auto and such.
>>>>> Maybe someone here has a spare and is close to you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Darrin
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 8:52 PM, "Justin Paul" <jp0181 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I actually dumped two gallons in, nada. The jets are not squirting?!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Darrin Hartzler <dhartzler at ifc.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Justin,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The car should idle fie even if the pumps are not working.  I really
>>>>> think that the car is just out of gas right now.  Dump a couple gallons
>>>> in
>>>>> and see if she will run.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Accelerator pumps should work, as they are intact, just stiff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Darrin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Justin Paul [jp0181 at yahoo.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: 08/18/2012 08:11 PM AST
>>>>>>> To: Northern Va Corvair Club <novacc-list at corvair.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Northern Va Corvair Club <novacc-list at corvair.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NoVa-Corvairs] August Meeting and Work Completed
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm pretty anxious to resolve this issue i would be willing to pay
>>>>> anyone with the carb and fuel knowledge $14 for the two accelerator pumps
>>>>> and $40 or so to help resolve the fuel issue and install the pumps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 18, 2012, at 7:30 PM, justin smalley <jp0181 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you all for those of you who did show up and to Ron for his
>>>> off
>>>>> hours help.I really appreciated it! My carbs were cleaned thoroughly,
>>>>> battery connections changed out, timing set and the comrady!
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately the car made it down the road and was starving for
>>>> fuel
>>>>> and Greg believes my accelerator pumps are bad or weak.
>>>>>>>> The carbs are not squirting and that seriously sucks, but my car
>>>> looks
>>>>> good!I know we all can't meet up all the time, but I am really trying to
>>>>> resolve these initial issues so I can drive this car away from home to
>>>>> repair the loud exhaust and etc.
>>>>>>>> If any of you have 2 accelerator pumps I would gladly pay you for
>>>>> them, asap.
>>>>>>>> I may have someone who may help me put them in, but haven't secured
>>>>> that as a resource yet.
>>>>>>>> As always I know we are all busy, but we were so close today. Sucks
>>>>> when you have a beauty of a car just sitting, lol.
>>>>>>>> I have some time tomorrow anyone not busy and want some gas money to
>>>>> come out a help a partner?!
>>>>>>>> Enjoy your weekend!!!
>>>>>>>> v/r
>>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>> 
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