[SCG] Re: Stock Question
Larry Claypool
mr.vair at urbancom.net
Tue May 2 09:48:56 EDT 2006
good morning all
i looked up speaker grills last nite in my 67 & 68 radio books. the 66 /up
corvair rear grill is definitly the same as all other chevrolets (except
sta. wagons) during this time.
according to the 67 parts book, the corvair front door speaker grills are
p/n # 3874519; shared also by full size chevy in 66 &67 (probably also 65) .
the front door speaker parts are not listed for a corvair in the 68 book,
but we could reasonably assume the they would be the same as 67.
the 67-68 camaro is part # 3899805; definitly not the same as the corvair
grill.
all the front door/kick panel speakers take the same speaker so the mounting
screw holes would be the same.
as kent notes, the shape of the edges is the difference. it is likely you
could make the camaro grills *work* with some modification.
regards
lc
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Sullivan" <kentsu at corvairkid.com>
To: "'airvair'" <airvair at richnet.net>; "'Larry Claypool'"
<mr.vair at urbancom.net>
Cc: "'Corvairs'" <lonwall at corvairunderground.com>; "'CLARKS CORVAIR'"
<clarks at corvair.com>; "'Garrison William-MGI0060'" <wgarrison at motorola.com>;
<scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:39 AM
Subject: RE: [SCG] Re: Stock Question
> Hi folks,
>
> I know quite a bit about this topic; spent several years looking for
> correct
> parts for my yellow convertible. The rectangular grille sure looks like
> the
> correct rear grille for Corvair ('66 and later). This grille was used in
> other GM products for sure because I have found a few over the years in
> junkyards--usually late '60s Cadillacs. I think the reason I usually found
> them in Cadillacs was because more Caddies had rear speakers.
>
> As for the front (door) grilles, each of the applications are slightly
> different. The difference is in the profile of the edges. Each car has a
> different surface at the mounting location and the edges of the grilles
> are
> shaped to match, so that there are no gaps.
>
> So, whomever is making those repro front grilles could make the right one
> for Corvair but they would be different than what they are making for any
> other GM car.
>
> --Kent
>
> P.S. I have a set of the front grilles for something other than Corvair
> because the edge profile is not Corvair. If you have another Chevy product
> with front speakers, let me know. I'd like to compare the profiles in
> order
> to figure out what grilles I have!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scg-list-bounces at tiger.skiblack.com
> [mailto:scg-list-bounces at tiger.skiblack.com] On Behalf Of airvair
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:35 AM
> To: Larry Claypool
> Cc: Corvairs; CLARKS CORVAIR; Garrison William-MGI0060;
> scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
> Subject: Re: [SCG] Re: Stock Question
>
> All,
>
> I'm not sure pictures will go thru, but I'll try attaching a pair of pics
> of
> the two speaker grills in one of my FACTORY-equipped stereo speaker cars
> (I
> have three, one of each body style). I'm also planning on having it at the
> convention in the SCG event.
>
> I can email these pics to anyone who wants them, if they don't come thru.
>
> I'm also CC'ing Clark's and Wall's, just in case they want to pick up on
> offering this item.
>
> -Mark
>
>> Larry Claypool wrote:
>>
>> the camaro front grills look like the corvair multiplex/tape grills
>> for the front doors.
>> all grills would be paintrd to match the foundation (rear) or
>> doors(front). i'lll try to get into the radio parts book tonite to
>> confirm these parts are all the same lc
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Garrison William-MGI0060
>> To: scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
>> Cc: Larry Claypool ; Bill Hubbell
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:27 AM
>> Subject: RE: [SCG] Re: Stock Question
>>
>> Well, I ordered one but I don't have an original to compare
>> it to. So, I'll try to compare it next time I am at a
>> show. However, if they look the same to Larry, I think that
>> is quite an endorsement! I presume they were painted to
>> match the foundation, right? Would dealer installed usually
>> come with a black grille? The one I vaguely remember was in
>> a '68 and it was painted the color of the foundation but
>> also appeared to be dealer installed because instead of
>> using the "riser" card, they pounded the sheet metal below
>> the speaker enough so it fit flush (ouch!).
>>
>> The part that was really interesting is they also have the
>> front speaker grilles for a Camaro. They look quite similar
>> to my fuzzy remembrance of the Corvair grille. Not cheap,
>> but when was the last time you saw any (assuming these are
>> the same)?
>>
>> http://www.drclassic.com/catalog/Camaro/Radio/JA0098.html
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> From: Larry Claypool [mailto:mr.vair at urbancom.net]
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:12 PM
>> To: Bill Hubbell; Garrison William-MGI0060
>> Cc: scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
>> Subject: Re: [SCG] Re: Stock Question
>>
>> looks like the right grill to me!
>> lc
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bill Hubbell
>> To: Garrison William-MGI0060
>> Cc: scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 11:05 AM
>> Subject: [SCG] Re: Stock Question
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> That's what the scg-list is for! (copied to
>> scg-list)
>>
>> Bill Hubbell
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Garrison William-MGI0060
>> To: whubbell at umich.edu
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Stock Question
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I don't know if the Stock group takes
>> questions, but I have an obscure one
>> that I will ask anyway.
>>
>> Is the rear speaker grille for a '66
>> Corvair the same as a '67 Camaro? The
>> reason I ask is I am putting in a rear
>> speaker using the repo foundation from
>> Clark's and need a grille. None of the
>> Corvair vendors sell them (as far as I
>> can tell). I've not managed to snag one
>> at a flea market over the years (I have
>> a few '65's, no '66s) and the repo the
>> Camaro vendors sell looks to me just
>> like the Corvair grille. I was going to
>> fire an email off to the Corvair vendors
>> suggesting they look into carrying the
>> Camaro grille - if it really is the
>> same. So, do you know if it is the
>> same? Did the '66 and '67 Corvair use
>> the same grille (which means there is a
>> much better chance the Camaro part would
>> be the same)?
>>
>> Here is a link to the Camaro grille
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-1969-Camaro-Orig-Style-Speaker-Gri
>> lles-6x9-Pair_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ34202QQitemZ4629801105QQrdZ1Q
>> QsspagenameZWD1V
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill Garrison
>> Philadelphia Corvair Association
>
>
>
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