[SCG] [Corsabod] Factory Stock Corvair Entries andStockPreservation Awardhistory in CORSA Concours 1997-2009

[The Vair Shop]

hi all

mark wrote
> All,
>
> Personally, I disagree. I don't think the numbers would be affected at 
> all.
> If someone wants to show their car, they'll show their car.

i tend to agree, whether or not there is special award would probably not 
make much difference on entry numbers. it is something to strive for, but 
the award alone would not make me load up a car & drive 1000 miles if i 
wasn't going to otherwise.



What I proposed
> is simply an acknowledgement of reality - that classifying cars when the
> awards system ignores classes is a study in useless activity. It's simply 
> a
> waste of effort on everybody's part. So why are we doing something that's
> useless?

keep in mind we only look at cars that *might* be stock in classification; 
if a car comes in with obvious modifications, we send it to modified or 
other class, and away it goes to operations check. that takes about 15 
seconds seconds to classify such a vehicle. if the car does look stock, and 
that is where the owner wants to go, then i'll look it over much more 
closely. could take 5-10 minutes. i'll then explain to the owner what items 
are not considered stock. keep in mind this is by necessity a limited 
overview rather than a detailed and final list of non stock items.
in the course of a typical concours classification, only about 20% of the 
entries warrant the closer look
the item that takes the longest, because every car regardless of class does 
it, it operations check. that will take about 10 minutes per car.
so if there is a long line at 'classification' it's not the classification 
part that is taking all the time to do.
>
> Let the 20-somethings have their modified cars.

i agree with duanne here that the majority of younger folks want the 
modified cars, the more modified the better (for them)


That's ok. I know some of
> them who actually WANT to keep their Corvair pure stock (YES they DO exist
> - just maybe not in YOUR neighborhood.)

we don't dissagree some younger ones will want a stock class car (no doubt 
influenced by an older family member) but in reality they are a small %.


Regardless, I am not asking to
> restrict anyone's concours desires. Let all who want to compete for a
> "gold/silver/bronze" award compete - against an arbitrary line in the 
> sand,
> if that's what everybody wants. So be it. But wake up and smell the 
> coffee.

can i have my diet coke instead? .--)

>
> Besides, isn't "People's Choice" mostly class-free?

there are usually 6 or 7 classes, based primarily on body style/year and 
drivetrain (corvair or other).


Do we see a drop in
> their participation? I don't think so.....

for a given convention, the # of concours entries to car display doesn't 
change that much.
>
> -Mark
>
lc