[SCG] Stock colors - Early interior

[Bill Hubbell]

Doug,

 

I am not as expert with the 1962 models as I am with the 1964s.  One thing I
found really helpful was an original Ditzler Automotive Finishes paint chip
chart for 1964 Chevrolets that I picked up at a swap meet.  Most people are
somewhat familiar with these and many examples can be found by doing a
Google search online.  However, the detailed interior paint information you
want is on the reverse side of the paint chip chart and this does not seem
to be found online, which is why you need to have an original chart.

 

Anyway, I KNOW we have discussed this at some point in the past, but I don't
remember where I put the information (see, this is WHY we need to get the
SCG database software working!!!), so I am going to forward this to the SCG
list and see if we can get your answers that way.

 

My gut feeling is to trust what your car is telling you, especially if you
are sure it has not been molested.  Clark's tries very hard to get things
right, but he also has a bottom line, so some of his interior products are
compromised.  I know for a fact that most of the kick panel (and other
interior cardboard) colors are only approximations.  I ended up painting my
cardboard panels with the same interior paint I used elsewhere (except the
darker dash areas).  However, I do NOT see a specific indication given for
the paint of the cardboards anywhere on the Ditzler chart.

 

Bill

 

Interior Paint Code information on Fisher Body Tag

The 1962-63 Corvairs have an extra digit on the trim or paint section of the
tag. WRN has the extra digit for interior paint on the Paint section. Ex.
922-7 = Red with black interior paint. (2= blue, 3= aqua,4= fawn,5= red,7=
black,8= saddle (63 only), 9= gold (62 only), R = White/Red (63 only) .
Oakland cars have the code on the trim line.

 

 

 

From: Doug Mackintosh [mailto:dougmackintosh at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:50 PM
To: Bill Hubbell
Subject: Stock colors - Early interior

 

Hi, Bill ! I'm hoping you can help with some "Stock Corvair" questions
relating to my daily driver. I know you have figured out all the interior
color combinations for the '64s (I believe you sent me the chart when I was
doing Leigh's Spyder interior). But I have not seen similar information for
the '62s. Here is what I am trying to figure out:

 

The car is a 1962 Monza coupe with red interior. I just finished replacing
the dash pad on this car. The pad is bright red. I expected the pad and
surrounding painted parts to be bright red, as shown in the color photo in
the Clarks catalog of a 1962 convertible with (presumably) new red interior.
The old pad was very brittle and discolored. It looked dark red, but I
assumed it was sun-burnt. I never really paid any attention to the moldings
and other painted parts until I removed the old pad. 

 

What I found is that the old pad was actually dark red (like the '64s),
based on the color of the protected vinyl under the old pad. Other parts are
also dark red. Here is what I found on my car:

 

Dark red:

 

 Radio speaker grille area

 Speaker surround trim

 Ashtray

 Bottom windshield moldings and dash end moldings

 Underside of glovebox "eyebrow"

 Underside of instrument cluster "hood"

 Kick panel cardboard

 Old dash pad

 

Bright red:

 

 Upper windshield garnish molding

 Quarter window molding

 Door panel (painted portions)

 Quarter panel (painted portion)

 Backlite garnish molding

 A-Pillar

 B-Pillar

 Door post inboard of pinchweld (where the cardboard kick panel tucks in)

 New dash pad

 Upholstery

 

I have done due diligence:

 

I looked in Larry Claypool's Stock Is articles, but found nothing addressing
shades of red.

 

I reviewed Clarks information. The only choice for '62 cardboard,
upholstery, and dash pad is bright red; '64 is dark.

 

My '62 "Hobby Package" has a section (page 8-BODY) called "Interior Trim
Distribution" which itemizes the color/finish on each element in the
interior. According to that, colors are as follows (it did not itemize a
dash pad, only the painted "instrument panel"):

 

Medium Red

 

 Seat upholstery

 Door trim (vinyl)

 Center pillar

 Door windhose (windlace)

 Rear package shelf (cardboard)

 Windshield and back window upper and side moldings

 Upper & Lower steering wheel

 Carpet

 Folding back seat panel

 

Dark Red 

 

 Kick panel cardboard

 Instrument panel, steering column, dir signal housing

 Steering wheels sides and hub

 

Do you know what was actually correct (as delivered) for a 1962 Monza coupe
with red interior?

 

Also, while perusing all this information I find in both Larry Claypool's
information and in the "Hobby Package" that the headliner is "Light fawn".
Mine looks white (yes I know Larry said they were so light I could be
fooled). Do you know the correct color? I don't see "fawn" as one of Clarks'
options (only white and off-white). I don't even know what color fawn might
be - I thought that was the color of the yucky green interior in my 1963
Monza I had as a teenager. 

 

>From the condition of what I see, I think the colors on my car are original,
but I don't have sufficient history on my car to actually know.

 

All right, Bill. Make me proud !

 

-- Doug Mackintosh
Corsa member since 1996
Corsa/NC member since 1996, Virtual Vairs member
Corvair owner 1969-1971 and 1996-on