[SCG] 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Sun Jan 26 23:05:53 EST 2014

Hi Tom and all,

When I get a chance, I'll try to shoot some pictures of my convert. It has a 
factory stereo tape speaker system in it. While it's not a factory-equipped 
car, the system came out of a '67 convert that was. That car (#24243) also 
had A/C and a 4 speed. I salvaged the entire speaker system and was 
extremely careful to install it in as close to factory manner as possible. 
The only thing I wasn't able to duplicate exactly was the fact that the door 
speaker holes were torched in (I cut them in) and the right side hole in the 
kick panel going into the cowl trough drop was inaccessable, so I routed the 
wire through the gray glop that seals the kick panel hole. I also had to 
grind the 1/2" holes into the door jambs, as I didn't have a hole punch (I 
do now).

The rear speakers went in intact, and I even salvaged and used the metal 
boot retainer strip from the donor car, so the holes are exactly where the 
factory put them in the donor car. Just for everybody's information, the 
system in the rear isn't a "perfectly" installed system. It almost looks 
like an amateur job, so don't get too anal in locating and mounting them 
"perfectly." You have to remember that they only made 125 factory 
installations of the tape system. Figure that that was spread over two trim 
lines and three body styles, so maybe only, what, about 25 converts were so 
equipped. That amounts to, on average, only ONE every two weeks, as opposed 
to hundreds of cars a day, and you get the idea that it was probably done on 
an as needed basis. It was probably installed off-line, possibly at a 
designated station somewhere during the assembly line process, maybe at the 
end of the line. The volume of cars would certainly indicate that the job 
was done in whatever looked good to the installer, to his convenience.

I understand that all a/c cars were pulled into a separate mini-line at one 
point, and the entire a/c system was installed (or at least what wasn't 
already in the car at that point). It may also have been where the tape 
systems might have also been installed (my guess only). The holes were put 
in before the body got painted, and the wiring probably went in along with 
the rest of the under-dash wiring. Then all the other stuff was layered on 
top of it all. The speakers themselves, and possibly the tape deck, was 
probably the last thing to go in.

Hope this helps. BTW, I'm available to answer questions on accessories 
(notably LM cars), in case anyone wants to know something. Always good to 
share knowledge, as knowledge not shared is useless. I may not know 
everything about accessories, but I have been researching everything I can 
on every option possible, and have had quite a few factory-loaded cars.

-Mark Corbin (Mr. Accessory)
419-468-4942
airvair at earthlink.net

-----Original Message----- 
From: 66vairman at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 7:59 PM
To: Kent Sullivan
Cc: scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com
Subject: Re: [SCG] 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Kent:

Thanks for this information. I am preparing an order to Clarks and I will 
add C4981 to my list. Maybe someone will come forward with a picture of 
their rear mounted convertible speaker. I have never seen any pictures of 
one printed in any previous Corvair books or publications.

Tom

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kent Sullivan" <kentsu at corvairkid.com>
To: 66vairman at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:38:52 PM
Subject: RE: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Mine are mounted incorrectly, as I found out later, so it’s not a good car 
to look at. Do you have the accessory installation reference manual for 
1966? That has the best-available drawings for locating. I don’t think Clark’s 
carries the entire repro book (I helped get it made from an original book 
owned by Mark Corbin) but they do have a packet containing what you need as 
C4981. If you want to buy the whole book, I will locate a retailer that 
carries it. The guy who prints them does not do retail sales, to my 
knowledge.

The original ‘66 book is a very, very, very rare item. When I approached the 
printer about reproing it, he thought I was pulling his leg, because he had 
never seen one in 30+ years of reproducing Chevy car books. Mark found it at 
a swap meet many years ago. It is loose-leaf whereas the prior years were 
perfect-bound. The repro is also perfect-bound. As far as we know, 1966 was 
the final year of this book, which makes sense since the way dealer options 
were packaged and sold changed pretty dramatically for 1967, with the 
introduction of the Camaro.

--Kent

From: 66vairman at comcast.net [mailto:66vairman at comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:30 PM
To: Kent Sullivan
Subject: RE: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Kent:

Thanks for the heads up. I will watch for it in the mail this week. By the 
way, were you able to get me a

photo of one of your rear speaker boxes? I am interested in how it is 
mounted. Thanks .

Tom

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kent Sullivan < kentsu at corvairkid.com >
To: 66vairman at comcast.net
Sent: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 16:47:47 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

FYI: I just heard from Steve Goodman. The box went into the mail to you 
today, Priority. Please let me know when you receive it!

From: Kent Sullivan [ mailto:kentsu at corvairkid.com ]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:41 PM
To: '66vairman at comcast.net'
Subject: RE: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Hi Tom,

I did write up some things that became their four-page flier. My, was that 
ever a long, long time ago. I don’t know if I have my original notes any 
more. I don’t know if something has gotten tangled up in the translation, 
but my memory is that the ’65 convertible box is a different shape and 
overall bulkier than the ’66 and later box, which was quite slim.

Let me know if there is more digging that I need to do.

--Kent

P.S. You should be getting a nice surprise in the mail from Steve Goodman in 
Denver soon. Please let me know when you do.

From: 66vairman at comcast.net [ mailto:66vairman at comcast.net ]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 4:14 PM
To: Kent Sullivan
Subject: Fwd: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Kent:

Could you please comment on this?

Tom

From: "Clarks Corvair Parts" < clarks at corvair.com >
To: 66vairman at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:35:51 AM
Subject: Re: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

We believe that most of this was documented from Kent Sullivan quite a few 
years ago and we have not found the paperwork to back that up right now, 
sorry.

Clarks Corvair Parts
400 Mohawk Trail
Shelburne Falls, Ma 01370
413-625-9776
413-625-8498 Fax
www.corvair.com

----- Original Message ----- 

From: 66vairman at comcast.net

To: Clarks Corvair Parts

Cc: scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com ; virtualvairs at corvair.org ; Mark Corbin

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:45 AM

Subject: Re: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Cal:

How did you document the production of your C10082 1965 convertible box and 
your C10638 1966 convertible box? Mark said the one on the right ( the 
smaller one) matches exactly his 1967 original convertible speaker box. This 
has me tend to believe your C10638 may be the 1965 box and your C10082 may 
be the 1966 box since it matches the 1967 box, and may have been a GM 
production carry over from 1966 to 1967.

Tom Rahochik

From: "Clarks Corvair Parts" < clarks at corvair.com >
To: 66vairman at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 2:44:43 PM
Subject: Re: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

The one on the right matches our 65 box as c10082.

Clarks Corvair Parts
400 Mohawk Trail
Shelburne Falls, Ma 01370
413-625-9776
413-625-8498 Fax
www.corvair.com

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: Calvin Clark Jr

To: mark newton

Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 1:05 PM

Subject: Fwd: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

can you handle this

calvin Clark Jr
clark3 at corvair.com

745 williamsburg rd

po box 600

Ashfield,Ma 01330

413-628-4650

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From: 66vairman at comcast.net

Subject: Fwd: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

Date: January 9, 2014 4:37:41 PM EST

To: Calvin Clark Jr < clark3 at corvair.com >

From: 66vairman at comcast.net
To: scg-list at tiger.skiblack.com , virtualvairs at corvair.org , 
airvair at earthlink.net
Cc: clark at corvair.com
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 4:32:21 PM
Subject: 1965-1969 convertible rear speaker enclosure

I wish to install a rear speaker in my 1966 Corsa convertible at a future 
date. Initially, I purchased a used late model Corvair rear speaker 
enclosure off ebay. The seller did say it was removed from a late model 
Corvair. I then purchased Clark's C10638 1966 reproduction enclosure unit. 
There is a definite difference in these two units. Please see the attached 
photos. The Clark's 1966 unit is on the left and the ebay unit is on the 
right. Can anyone confirm which one is correct for the 1966 model year? Cal, 
I see you also have a 1965 rear speaker box (exact repro) listed under part 
number C10082. Is it possible 1965 was a different style from 1966? Does 
anyone have the original 1966 optional rear convertible speaker unit on 
their vehicle? All comments are appreciated.

Tom Rahochik

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