<html><P>Hi Jerry,</P>
<P>Thanks for your memories of the Oakland car. We have a very early Oakland car in the SFBA chapter, but unfortunately it's pretty ordinary as '60s go. Since Oakland (and Kansas City) production didn't start until September, many of the early&nbsp;features were gone by then. Including the horn vents and different contour of the front doors/fenders. The <EM>really </EM>interesting early 60s were all built at Willow Run in July.</P>
<P>Dave&nbsp;<BR><BR>--&nbsp;Jerry&nbsp;Brown&nbsp;&lt;air_cooled63@yahoo.com&gt;&nbsp;wrote:<BR>About&nbsp;10&nbsp;years&nbsp;ago&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;hunting&nbsp;Corvair&nbsp;parts&nbsp;in&nbsp;a<BR>Junk&nbsp;yard&nbsp;in&nbsp;Kingman&nbsp;Az&nbsp;and&nbsp;came&nbsp;across&nbsp;a&nbsp;60&nbsp;4&nbsp;door<BR>that&nbsp;was&nbsp;in&nbsp;pretty&nbsp;good&nbsp;shape&nbsp;but&nbsp;I'm&nbsp;sure&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;gone<BR>now.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It&nbsp;was&nbsp;assembled&nbsp;in&nbsp;Oakland&nbsp;Ca.&nbsp;and&nbsp;had&nbsp;a&nbsp;real<BR>early&nbsp;number&nbsp;like&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;first&nbsp;100.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;to&nbsp;buy<BR>it&nbsp;but&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;have&nbsp;any&nbsp;place&nbsp;to&nbsp;put&nbsp;it&nbsp;if&nbsp;I&nbsp;bought&nbsp;it.<BR>It&nbsp;would&nbsp;have&nbsp;yielded&nbsp;a&nbsp;wealth&nbsp;of&nbsp;info&nbsp;for&nbsp;sure.<BR><BR>Jerry<BR>---&nbsp;Bill&nbsp;Hubbell&nbsp;&lt;whubbell@umich.edu&gt;&nbsp;wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;&nbsp;Dave,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Yes,&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;interested.&nbsp;&nbsp;In&nbsp;addition&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;photos<BR>&gt;&nbsp;posted,&nbsp;please&nbsp;take&nbsp;photos<BR>&gt;&nbsp;if&nbsp;you&nbsp;can,&nbsp;including&nbsp;details&nbsp;of:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;VIN&nbsp;Plate<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Fisher&nbsp;Body&nbsp;Tag<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Door&nbsp;Sills<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Horn&nbsp;slots&nbsp;(front&nbsp;lower&nbsp;corner&nbsp;of&nbsp;car)<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Dash<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Interior&nbsp;(door&nbsp;panels,&nbsp;seat&nbsp;upholstery,&nbsp;mat&nbsp;or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;carpet,&nbsp;rear&nbsp;cargo&nbsp;area<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Trunk,&nbsp;including&nbsp;mat<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Tires&nbsp;(if&nbsp;original)<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Dome&nbsp;light<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Undercarriage&nbsp;(if&nbsp;you&nbsp;can&nbsp;get&nbsp;it&nbsp;up&nbsp;on&nbsp;a&nbsp;lift&nbsp;or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;something&nbsp;similar)<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Glove&nbsp;Box&nbsp;stickers<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;*&nbsp;&nbsp;Any&nbsp;other&nbsp;areas&nbsp;of&nbsp;interest,&nbsp;especially&nbsp;those<BR>&gt;&nbsp;unique&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;earliest<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Corvairs.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;I&nbsp;would&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;together&nbsp;photos&nbsp;and&nbsp;stories&nbsp;of<BR>&gt;&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;known&nbsp;surviving<BR>&gt;&nbsp;very&nbsp;early&nbsp;Corvairs&nbsp;(running&nbsp;and&nbsp;not)&nbsp;and&nbsp;put<BR>&gt;&nbsp;together&nbsp;a&nbsp;special&nbsp;edition&nbsp;of<BR>&gt;&nbsp;the&nbsp;"Taking&nbsp;Stock"&nbsp;newsletter&nbsp;featuring&nbsp;them.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;I&nbsp;heard&nbsp;somebody&nbsp;mention&nbsp;that&nbsp;they&nbsp;knew&nbsp;of&nbsp;an&nbsp;even<BR>&gt;&nbsp;earlier&nbsp;Corvair<BR>&gt;&nbsp;(#300-something)&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;state&nbsp;of&nbsp;disrepair&nbsp;-&nbsp;if<BR>&gt;&nbsp;anybody&nbsp;knows&nbsp;of&nbsp;such&nbsp;a&nbsp;car&nbsp;or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;others,&nbsp;I&nbsp;would&nbsp;like&nbsp;to&nbsp;include&nbsp;their&nbsp;stories&nbsp;and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;pictures&nbsp;if&nbsp;possible,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;along&nbsp;with&nbsp;#s&nbsp;407&nbsp;and&nbsp;428.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Thanks!<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Bill&nbsp;Hubbell<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Editor,&nbsp;"Taking&nbsp;Stock"<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_____&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;From:&nbsp;scg-list-bounces@tiger.skiblack.com<BR>&gt;&nbsp;[mailto:scg-list-bounces@tiger.skiblack.com]&nbsp;On<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Behalf&nbsp;Of&nbsp;David&nbsp;McMillan<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Sent:&nbsp;Tuesday,&nbsp;July&nbsp;31,&nbsp;2007&nbsp;8:20&nbsp;AM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;To:&nbsp;corvairkid1963;&nbsp;airvair@earthlink.net;&nbsp;Kent<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Sullivan;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Subject:&nbsp;Re:&nbsp;[SCG]&nbsp;re:&nbsp;1960&nbsp;Photo&nbsp;Album<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;If&nbsp;you&nbsp;guys&nbsp;are&nbsp;interested&nbsp;in&nbsp;#428&nbsp;(next&nbsp;in&nbsp;line?),<BR>&gt;&nbsp;currently&nbsp;owned&nbsp;by&nbsp;our<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Cathy&nbsp;McCafferty&nbsp;in&nbsp;Massachusetts.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;I've&nbsp;got&nbsp;some&nbsp;photos&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;Bay&nbsp;State&nbsp;Corvair&nbsp;Club<BR>&gt;&nbsp;page&nbsp;at:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;<BR>http://www.corvair.org/chapters/chapter017/index_files/Page1078.html<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;If&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;any&nbsp;questions,&nbsp;let&nbsp;me&nbsp;know&nbsp;and&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;get<BR>&gt;&nbsp;answers,&nbsp;more&nbsp;photos&nbsp;or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;whatever.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Dave&nbsp;McMillan<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;-----&nbsp;Original&nbsp;Message&nbsp;----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;From:&nbsp;corvairkid1963&nbsp;&lt;corvairkid1963@power-net.net&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;To:&nbsp;airvair@earthlink.net;&nbsp;Kent&nbsp;Sullivan<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&lt;kentsu@corvairkid.com&gt;;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Sent:&nbsp;Monday,&nbsp;July&nbsp;30,&nbsp;2007&nbsp;9:50:48&nbsp;PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Subject:&nbsp;RE:&nbsp;[SCG]&nbsp;re:&nbsp;1960&nbsp;Photo&nbsp;Album<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Hi&nbsp;Kent,&nbsp;Pat&nbsp;(Jerry's&nbsp;widow)&nbsp;and&nbsp;their&nbsp;son&nbsp;Bryce&nbsp;are<BR>&gt;&nbsp;both&nbsp;very&nbsp;active&nbsp;in&nbsp;the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;DACC&nbsp;family,&nbsp;Pat&nbsp;takes&nbsp;her&nbsp;'61&nbsp;coupe,&nbsp;the&nbsp;car&nbsp;she<BR>&gt;&nbsp;and&nbsp;Jerry&nbsp;took&nbsp;on&nbsp;a&nbsp;5000<BR>&gt;&nbsp;mile&nbsp;western&nbsp;vacation&nbsp;a&nbsp;few&nbsp;years&nbsp;ago,&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;local<BR>&gt;&nbsp;cruise&nbsp;nights&nbsp;and&nbsp;car<BR>&gt;&nbsp;shows.&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;set&nbsp;up&nbsp;a&nbsp;date&nbsp;with&nbsp;one&nbsp;or&nbsp;both&nbsp;of&nbsp;them<BR>&gt;&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;&nbsp;pictures&nbsp;and<BR>&gt;&nbsp;data&nbsp;from&nbsp;407.&nbsp;They&nbsp;live&nbsp;west&nbsp;of&nbsp;Ann&nbsp;Arbor&nbsp;about&nbsp;30<BR>&gt;&nbsp;miles&nbsp;from&nbsp;the&nbsp;museum.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Pete&nbsp;C.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;-----Original&nbsp;message-----<BR>&gt;&nbsp;From:&nbsp;"Mark&nbsp;Corbin"&nbsp;airvair@earthlink.net<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Date:&nbsp;Mon,&nbsp;30&nbsp;Jul&nbsp;2007&nbsp;00:15:51&nbsp;-0400<BR>&gt;&nbsp;To:&nbsp;"Kent&nbsp;Sullivan"&nbsp;kentsu@corvairkid.com<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Subject:&nbsp;RE:&nbsp;[SCG]&nbsp;re:&nbsp;1960&nbsp;Photo&nbsp;Album<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Kent,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Wish&nbsp;we&nbsp;COULD&nbsp;"&nbsp;get&nbsp;in&nbsp;touch"&nbsp;with&nbsp;Jerry,&nbsp;He's<BR>&gt;&nbsp;deceased.&nbsp;(Don't&nbsp;know&nbsp;whether<BR>&gt;&nbsp;to&nbsp;laugh&nbsp;or&nbsp;cry&nbsp;over&nbsp;that&nbsp;one....&nbsp;)&nbsp;The&nbsp;car's&nbsp;the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;property&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;family.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;-Mark<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;-----&nbsp;Original&nbsp;Message&nbsp;-----&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;From:&nbsp;Kent&nbsp;Sullivan&nbsp;&lt;mailto:kentsu@corvairkid.com&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;To:&nbsp;scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Sent:&nbsp;7/28/2007&nbsp;8:32:50&nbsp;AM&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Subject:&nbsp;[SCG]&nbsp;re:&nbsp;1960&nbsp;Photo&nbsp;Album<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;I&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;get&nbsp;this&nbsp;done.&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;gone&nbsp;all&nbsp;day&nbsp;yesterday<BR>&gt;&nbsp;on&nbsp;side&nbsp;trips.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Pete&nbsp;or&nbsp;Clark,&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;know&nbsp;how&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;in&nbsp;touch&nbsp;with<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Jerry?&nbsp;We&nbsp;could&nbsp;try&nbsp;to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;take&nbsp;some&nbsp;photos&nbsp;later&nbsp;this&nbsp;afternoon&nbsp;(Saturday)&nbsp;or<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Sunday&nbsp;morning,&nbsp;if&nbsp;he's<BR>&gt;&nbsp;available.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;--Kent<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_____&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;From:&nbsp;"Bill&nbsp;Hubbell"&nbsp;&lt;whubbell@umich.edu&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Sent:&nbsp;Friday,&nbsp;July&nbsp;27,&nbsp;2007&nbsp;12:13&nbsp;PM<BR>&gt;&nbsp;To:&nbsp;"Scg-List@Tiger.&nbsp;Skiblack.&nbsp;Com"<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&lt;scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com&gt;,&nbsp;"Kent<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Sullivan"&nbsp;&lt;kentsu@corvairkid.com&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Subject:&nbsp;1960&nbsp;Photo&nbsp;Album<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;created&nbsp;an&nbsp;album&nbsp;of&nbsp;1960&nbsp;Corvairs&nbsp;-&nbsp;several<BR>&gt;&nbsp;cars&nbsp;are&nbsp;studied,<BR>&gt;&nbsp;starting&nbsp;from&nbsp;the&nbsp;front&nbsp;and&nbsp;moving&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;rear.&nbsp;&nbsp;All<BR>&gt;&nbsp;but&nbsp;one&nbsp;is&nbsp;reasonably<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Stock,&nbsp;and&nbsp;that&nbsp;other&nbsp;one&nbsp;still&nbsp;has&nbsp;a&nbsp;lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;stock<BR>&gt;&nbsp;parts&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;http://rides.webshots.com/album/560043731YzDnRG&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;going&nbsp;to&nbsp;copy&nbsp;this&nbsp;to&nbsp;"Caveman&nbsp;Corvairs",&nbsp;the<BR>&gt;&nbsp;1960&nbsp;Special&nbsp;Interest<BR>&gt;&nbsp;Group,&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&nbsp;don't&nbsp;see&nbsp;a&nbsp;contact&nbsp;listed&nbsp;for&nbsp;them&nbsp;on<BR>&gt;&nbsp;the&nbsp;CORSA&nbsp;site.&nbsp;&nbsp;Does<BR>&gt;&nbsp;anybody&nbsp;know&nbsp;if&nbsp;they&nbsp;are&nbsp;still&nbsp;in&nbsp;existence?&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;<BR>&gt;&nbs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