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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mark</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Trust me, you have no idea. Customers blow me away
every day</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>People think that a "Hardtop" is a non-convertible car.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>"Well. it's not a soft top now, is it?" you hear.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>They have no idea what the difference is between a post
sdn and a HT is. Then you get into Chrysler "Fastop" styling and you
REALLY lose them. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>People think all they have to do is tell you "it's a 38
Plymouth" and you know everything about their car. "well, aren't they all
the same? " Sheesh. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>GM owners are completely ignorant of the old Firewall
Plates with Model and Style codes on it. If you look at the Steele
catalog, many of the parts we sell for GM cars are listed by the Style Code
only. Especially Windshield, Backlite and Vent Window Gaskets.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I temporarily lose a lot of sales because I have to
convince the customer that "THEY'RE NOT ALL THE SAME", and to go look at their
firewall plate. </FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>
<DIV><BR>Then of course you have the guys who say "The firewall plate was
missing when I bought the car", then you have to send them pictures of all of
the models that theirs could be so they can figure out what the hell they have.
</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bastardizing of the proper body terms by manufacturers has NOT helped.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Luckily the days of dual and single cowl phaetons are gone, but those who
like Lincoln K's and Pierce Arrows know what they're talking about, or take
their cars to someone who does. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hank</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=airvair@earthlink.net href="mailto:airvair@earthlink.net">Mark
Corbin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kaczmarek@charter.net
href="mailto:kaczmarek@charter.net">henry kaczmarek</A> ; <A
title=whubbell@umich.edu
href="mailto:whubbell@umich.edu">whubbell@umich.edu</A> ; <A
title=scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com
href="mailto:scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com">Stock Corvair Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:08
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SCG] Looking for Corvair
Collections</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Hank,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Actually, it is. At least in industry lingo. It's the Chevy marketing
department that bastardized the word "sedan" by attaching "sport" to it to
designate a 4door hardtop. Just like they bastardized the coupe designation
for the 2door hardtop. (A coupe is, properly, a status upgrade from
a 2door sedan.) It's STILL not industry standard, which was my
point. Yet because of such linguistic bastardizing, the general
public has swallowed the concept of a sedan automatically being a 4door.
And THAT is what grates against my nerves, because a sedan (of any number of
doors) was always considered a lesser value than the hardtop equivalent. By
going hardtop, the LM Corvair was actually upgraded in stature. So why are we
(in the club) so willing to downgrade it?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I don't have a problem with using Chevy marketing's bastardized
termonology, though begrudgingly so. But ONLY when it's used in its
entirety.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I also find it annoying that the term "sedan" has been so
misappropriated, to the point of becoming something it isn't, in the minds of
the general public. It behoves us as REAL, educated, car
enthusiasts to inform them that a sedan can have any number of doors, and
that a "sedan" is NOT an automatic designation for a 4door. We as
REAL car enthusiasts owe it to the hobby to speak in correct termonology.
Otherwise, we become as foolish as those who don't know any better.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-Mark</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=kaczmarek@charter.net href="mailto:kaczmarek@charter.net">henry
kaczmarek</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=airvair@earthlink.net
href="mailto:airvair@earthlink.net">airvair@earthlink.net</A>;<A
title=whubbell@umich.edu
href="mailto:whubbell@umich.edu">whubbell@umich.edu</A>;<A
title=scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com
href="mailto:scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com">Stock Corvair Group</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 12/31/2007 6:44:05 PM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [SCG] Looking for Corvair
Collections</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Mark</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Actually that's not completely
correct.</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>
<DIV><BR>Any Chevrolet 4Dr Hardtop was considered a "Sport
Sedan"</DIV>
<DIV>In GMese. Just as any 2dr HT was considered a "Sport Coupe"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Oldsmobile called their Pillarless Hardtop Models "Holiday"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hank</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=airvair@earthlink.net href="mailto:airvair@earthlink.net">Mark
Corbin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=whubbell@umich.edu
href="mailto:whubbell@umich.edu">whubbell@umich.edu</A> ; <A
title=scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com
href="mailto:scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com">Stock Corvair Group</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 31, 2007 4:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [SCG] Looking for
Corvair Collections</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>You could add Mike McKeel, Gaston, IN to the list. Mostly lates,
particularly a/c cars and 4 door HARDTOPS. (Note that there is
no such thing as a LM sedan, as all LM's were hardtops.) </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>-Mark</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=whubbell@cox.net href="mailto:whubbell@cox.net">Bill
Hubbell</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A
title=scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com
href="mailto:scg-list@tiger.skiblack.com">Stock Corvair Group</A>;<A
title=virtualvairs@corvair.org
href="mailto:virtualvairs@corvair.org">Virtual Vairs</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 12/30/2007 7:42:44 PM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [SCG] Looking for Corvair
Collections</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a resource tool for the
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Stock Corvair Group</st1:PersonName>, I would
like to compile a listing of known “collections” of unrestored vintage
Corvairs (junkyards, businesses, private collections, etc.) This
will help the SCG know where to look for information when a particular
research project is identified. In addition to listing the
locations of such collections, I would like to attempt to also identify
the vehicles in each collection by year, model,
etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In attempt to get the
process started, I am listing the following collections known to
me:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Corvair Ranch – Gettysburg,
PA (business) - Over 600 Corvair cars, trucks, and Ultravans are located
outdoors on the property<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bruce Hewitt’s farm – Vale,
NC (private) – over 100 Corvairs are located outdoors on
farm<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Paul Whelan’s farm -
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Dinwidde</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">VA</st1:State></st1:place> (private) – over 50 Corvairs are
located outdoors on farm<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Norm King’s Garage –
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Flint</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">MI</st1:State></st1:place> (business) –
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bill
Hubbell</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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