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secc-bounces@corvair.org [mailto:secc-bounces@corvair.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>J&D Bird<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:43
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> SECC<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [SECC] New Autocross
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There is on going discussion of having one CORSA
autocross group. By doing this there could be a group all non-autocross clubs
would know is available for help in conducting an autocross. For instance the
autocross is being conducted by the local SCCA club which is going to charge a
fee and a local club held the autocross in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Lexington</st1:place></st1:City> last year. By having a larger
autocross group it is felt resources could be combined. By having a larger
group it will be easier to talk with different facilities to hold an event such
as <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Roebling Road</st1:address></st1:Street>
where we could maybe have enough people to rent the track.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Below are some of the e-mails that have been going
back and forth and your comments are gladly welcomed. The SECC will still exist
and nothing locally will change. Hey I just got elected President why would I
want to give that up so quick? Like I said if you have any questions or
comments please let them be heard.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hiya--<br>
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[On this distribution: CORSA President, Jack Pinard of So. <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>, and <br>
Donnie Bird, President of SECC.]<br>
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We have had a request from a group from <st1:place w:st="on">Southern
California</st1:place> to form an <br>
autocross group there. It seems to me that CORSA should have one autocross <br>
group nationwide. It could be a loose confederation or group of regional <br>
special interest groups. Organize it similar to SCCA with regions around <br>
the country. NECC, SECC, and the <st1:place w:st="on">Southern California</st1:place>
guys would start as <br>
regions. Add more as needed.<br>
<br>
There wouldn't have to be any hard and fast rules as far as CORSA <br>
membership, etc. as each region could establish their own. Treasuries and <br>
regional business would continue as it has in the past. This loose <br>
confederation would make it attractive to long established groups like NECC <br>
and the newer groups such as SECC and the So. <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Cal.</st1:place></st1:State> people.<br>
<br>
This would merely be a umbrella group to deal with the special <br>
opportunities and problems with the racers' community. Site, insurance, <br>
rule changes would all be part of their responsibility. They would work <br>
closely with the CORSA Comp Chair. Maybe integrate the Fast Vairs e-mail <br>
group into the new umbrella group.<br>
<br>
At the recent past conventions, the local chapters have been hiring a SCCA <br>
region to administer the autocross. Because of the expanded member base, <br>
this new group could run the autocross each year for a fee. Both SECC and <br>
NECC have timing equipment. CORSA wins because all of the group know the <br>
CORSA rules. And the group wins by keeping the money within the Corvair <br>
community.<br>
<br>
It would also be ONE point of contact between CORSA membership and the <br>
racer's community. Instead of our average member dealing with three groups, <br>
they would have one place to have their questions answered. I think this <br>
alone would serve to grow the participation in each region.<br>
<br>
This would formalize events like the racer's workshop, so that CORSA could <br>
provide more assistance in areas like publicity. NECC is not even a <br>
chapter, so its addition to the group would solidify the relationship <br>
between NECC and CORSA, which in turn, would make the advertisements CORSA <br>
has provided as a courtesy in the past, a requirement.<br>
<br>
Your thoughts?<br>
<br>
--H<br>
<br>
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At 03:29 PM 6/14/2005, <a href="mailto:JACKPINARD@cs.com">JACKPINARD@cs.com</a>
wrote:<br>
>Thank you for giving so freely of your time and information in our phone <br>
>conversation today. Please forward this note to Sarah Beltrani, Seth <br>
>Emerson and anyone you feel understands what I am proposing.<br>
>As you know, Ventura County Corvairs has sponsored autocross for several <br>
>years at <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Camarillo</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Airport</st1:PlaceType>, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Ventura
County</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">California</st1:State></st1:place>.
We picked up the <br>
>baton after Inland Empire Corvair Club had to drop autocross. We are the <br>
>only chapter in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>
sponsoring autocross. As such we draw entries <br>
>from most So Cal chapters and occasionally from <st1:City w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:City>
and Northern <br>
><st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>.<br>
>There are a few of us who work had to keep the Corvair Spirit Alive with <br>
>autocross. Yet we find it difficult at times to gain the support of <br>
>chapter members who do not participate and do not seem to understand the <br>
>special management and finances of this automotive sport. Although every <br>
>event we have held has made a profit, once the funds get in the chapter <br>
>treasury other claims are made upon it.<br>
>So what I have discussed with a few Corsa members is the formation of a <br>
>Chapter dedicated solely to autocross and racing. It would require Corsa <br>
>membership of all members, hold only an annual meeting for the purpose of <br>
>elections, publish a newsletter perioidcally, maintain its own financial <br>
>accounts, own required equipment and be incorporated. My suggestion has <br>
>received strong support from AXer's.<br>
>Question 1: I am retired and will be moving to a Lebec, CA address.
If I <br>
>formed a Chapter in Lebec members would maintain their membership in home <br>
>chapters.<br>
>The mileage to other area chapters would be:<br>
><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Ventura</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType>
Corvairs 80, Corsa West of <st1:City w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:City> 62, <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">South</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Coast</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
<br>
>Corsa 97, Vintage Corsa 108. Inland Empire Corviar Club 139, Coyote <br>
>Corvair Club 166, <st1:City w:st="on">San Diego</st1:City> Corvair Club
207, <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Central</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Coast</st1:PlaceType>
Corvair Club <br>
>140, <st1:place w:st="on">San Joaquin</st1:place> Corvair Club 155. Members
from these chapters have <br>
>participated in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Camarillo</st1:place></st1:City>
events.<br>
>In addition we have had entires from: San Joaquin 155, Central Valley 249, <br>
>Classic Corvairs 352, <st1:City w:st="on">Sacramento</st1:City> 330,
Silicon Valley 318, San Francison <br>
>Bay 312, <st1:City w:st="on">Las Vegas</st1:City> 355, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City> 456 and Tuscon 566.<br>
>What are requirements for such a chapter?<br>
>Question 2: Harry suggests a Special Interest Group may be appropriate <br>
>rather than a chapter. What are requirements to organize?<br>
>Question 3: Harry says Sarah has experience with <st1:place w:st="on">SouthEast
Corvair</st1:place> <br>
>Council. Please explain its purpose and how it is managed. (I supported <br>
>the assembling by Jenn and Scott Wheeler, Vintage Corsa, of a Master <br>
>Calendar of So Cal Chapter activities. It has proved useful in its first <br>
>year, but is for information only.)<br>
>Please keep this request confidential until I am informed of options and <br>
>can draw support without angering any members who might feel we are taking <br>
>from them.<br>
>I participate in parades, economy runs, museum visits, concours, picnics <br>
>and of course my highly successful Poppy Run. All are fun for owners and <br>
>help to Promote! Promote! Promote! An autocross group will maintain
that <br>
>tradition.<br>
>Thanks again,<br>
>Jack Pinard<br>
><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Ventura</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">County</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> Corvairs<br>
>Past president<br>
>Winner of First Corsa "Best Chapter Newsletter" Award<br>
>and proud to be Sarah correspondent<br>
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|--------------------------------------------------------------<br>
| Harry Jensen <a href="mailto:corsa@corvair.org">mailto:corsa@corvair.org</a><br>
| CORSA Executive Secretary<br>
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