In a message dated 12/7/2004 11:13:55 PM Central Standard Time, whubbell@cox.net writes: Um, that would be for Carl Sagan's car, not John Glenn's Bill > > From: "Bill Elliott" <Corvair@fnader.com> > > In any case, I wouldn't expect "billions and billions" (sorry, couldn't resist ;-) ) Yea, John Glenn's car has millions of fireflies around it... Ned