<VV> Yenko Stinger on eBay

[Eric S. Eberhard]

I suppose one has to know what they want the car for and then be prepared 
to pay the appropriate price.

There certainly is a "scale" of value for cars likes these, clones being at 
the bottom of the list, "real" cars w/out tags (I bet there are no YS cars 
in this class), clones with real tags, the real thing, and the most 
valuable is the real things with all the proper documentation and a true 
race history.  Each of these also varies by condition.

If all you want is to drive it and enjoy it, buy a clone as it is way 
cheaper and drives the same (assuming it is a true clone).  If you want an 
investment buy the best car you can afford on that scale in the best 
condition you can find.  My point is not that the car on ebay is 
"worthless" (although I ALWAYS RUN from rust) ... my point is that there 
were two very nice well restored 100% original fully documented cars in the 
last year on ebay for the same price as this one.  The current car is 
re-bodied and has rust problems.  Meaning that is not appropriately priced.

BTW --> I have decided that I would like a YS ... if anyone knows of one 
for sale, please let me know.  Of course I want the completely original 
documented car ... cannot imagine why I let one of the ones I really liked 
on ebay get away from me!


At 08:06 PM 2/26/04, you wrote:
>From: "Bill Elliott" <corvair@fnader.com>
>
>Hate to jump in on this... but it's pretty accepted that owning the number 
>is owning a REAL Stinger.
>
>This is not a Corvair-specific thing... in Shelby Mustangs, the Shelby 
>tags (and not the rest of the car) is
>what makes it "real".  I know of a specific example where a high dollar 
>Shelby was wrecked, the Shelby
>tags removed and placed on another Mustang... and the original car 
>eventually rebuilt... as a Shelby but
>missing the Shelby tags. Both owners claimed the same numbers.
>
>This situation was brought before the Shelby Club... who in the end 
>decided that the person with the Shelby
>tags (but not the real car) had the "real" Shelby... making his "clone" 
>valuable and the original Shelby car
>worthless (except as a Mustang). But still not as valuable as an all 
>original numbers-matching Shelby.
>
>What I've seen with the Stinger market is similar. The Stinger number (and 
>the place on the registry) has a
>certain intrinsic value (growing higher daily), the Stinger equipment (CR 
>trans, etc) have an intrinsic value
>(pretty steady value), and the Corvair itself has a certain intrinsic 
>value (growing higher, but slowly). The car
>is not "just a clone" if you have the Stinger number... but it would be 
>"just a clone" if you had the real car
>without the number. That's not just my opinion... that's pretty much the 
>fact of the market.
>
>The value of originality (original body, right vin on tag and body, 
>matching the right Stinger number... our
>version of "numbers matching") has historically had a small effect on the 
>the value of the car... but in my
>opinion this value is climbing steadily and will soon be the dominant 
>value of the few select cars that meet
>it.
>
>VERY few Stingers can be documented to meet this stipulation... but those 
>that can be will be the big dollar
>cars in the near future...meaning some recent deals that looked pretty 
>strange are actually very good
>investments.
>
>Just my $0.02....

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