<VV> Matching Engine Numbers

[Norman C. Witte]

Just another thought on all the numbers matching business.  I am not a Vette
guy so I don't know this for a fact, but I bet that it takes quite a bit of
time to judge a car to the "Bloomington Gold" standard of correctness.
Let's face it:  as long as our concours judging takes about half a day and
cars aren't put on hoists or jacks, there really is a limit to how far out
of control the numbers matching issue can get.

Norm Witte

> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org]On Behalf Of Kent Sullivan
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 7:24 PM
> To: virtualvairs@corvair.org
> Subject: RE: <VV> Matching Engine Numbers
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Good discussion. I am in the thick of decoding Fisher Body
> tags and have a
> passion for stock cars but I would never want things to go as
> far as they
> have with 'vettes. I think it's unlikely to happen unless the
> Corvair's
> value becomes much higher. We are blessed to have fun cars that don't
> attract the people who are looking for investments first and
> cars second.
> Bill hit the nail on the head of why it's fun for me to find
> out what is
> correct even if I don't want it to show up on a concours
> judging sheet.
>
> I'm also not too worried about the "disease" spreading beyond
> a few of us
> self-labeled nuts because the number of people who bother to
> restore a car
> to try to compete in the factory stock classes is very small.
> As Bill said,
> we are fortunate to have a concours that is NOT all about stock; it's
> primarily about cleanliness and attractiveness.
> Hyper-stockness only matters
> in two of the classes.
>
> --Kent
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org
> > [mailto:virtualvairs-admin@corvair.org] On Behalf Of airvair
> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 11:31 AM
> > To: Bill Hubbell
> > Cc: NicolCS@aol.com; virtualvairs@corvair.org;
> > NOSVAIR@aol.com; Bob Norwalk
> > Subject: Re: <VV> Matching Engine Numbers
> >
> > I think that we should demand that this section be deleted in
> > the concours rules. It'll only serve to infect us with the
> > "matching-numbers" disease.
> >
> > Conversely, I'll agree about KNOWING what the body tag codes
> > stand for.
> > As long as that's the only thing we do it for.
> >
> > If that sounds contradictory, it isn't. It's all a matter of
> > not letting it put a price tag on our fun.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> > Bill Hubbell wrote:
> > >
> > > For the record, CORSA Concours rules state that:
> > >
> > > 'Vehicles in Factory Stock Original and Factory Stock
> Restored are
> > > expected to have "matching numbers."  Date coded items such
> > as engine,
> > > transaxle, carburetors, alternator, glass, etc. *may* be
> > checked for
> > > consistency and their relation to the body build date,
> > Paint, trim and
> > > accessory codes *may* also be verified.'
> > >
> > > In practice, it seems that date codes are not really checked.
> > >
> > > As far as decoding the accessory codes, those of us who are
> > working on
> > > that project are doing it mostly for the fun of the hunt.
> > Also, many
> > > people want to know what those letters and numbers mean.
> > finally, it
> > > does fit in with our mission as an organization dedicated to the
> > > "preservation, restoration, and operation of the Corvair".
> > >
> > > Bill Hubbell
> > >
> > > From: <NicolCS@aol.com>
> > > I don't want this for our Corvair
> > > world. I
> > > > don't think many would sign up for this insanity if
> they had any
> > > > idea
> > > where
> > > > it could lead.  Am I alone on this?
> > > > Craig Nicol
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