<VV> hardtop thread

J R Read_HML hmlinc@sbcglobal.net
Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:47:04 -0500


Well, the dictionary seems to think that a sedan is an auto with two (full) 
seats capable of carrying 4 or more persons.  So, I guess a Corvair coupe is 
ALSO a sedan...(well, a 500 anyway).   The amount of doors seems to have 
nothing to do with whether or not it is a sedan - it is the seating space. 
No mention is made of A, B, or C pillars!

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Later, JR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <mblasko@jps.net>
To: "airvair" <airvair@richnet.net>; "Harry Yarnell" 
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Cc: "Thompson, Ed" <EXT@quarles.com>; <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
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Subject: Re: <VV> hardtop thread


> ok guys, I give.  I'll just call my car a Nomad (although my wife's name 
> is
> Mo so we call it the MoMad).  Hardtop, station wagon, old red car, 
> whatever.
>
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "airvair" <airvair@richnet.net>
> To: "Harry Yarnell" <hyarnell1@earthlink.net>
> Cc: "Thompson, Ed" <EXT@quarles.com>; <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> hardtop thread
>
>
>> I beg to differ with you, Harry.
>>
>> A sedan, by definition is a car with a "B" pillar that extends from
>> floor to roof. It has nothing to do with how many doors it has.
>> Evidence: a 2door hardtop is NOT a sedan, but a hardtop by definition.
>> If it had a "B" pillar that reached the roof, THEN would it be called a
>> two-door-sedan. Likewise, a 4door hardtop is NOT a sedan, but a hardtop
>> by definition.
>>
>> BTW as another poster said, a coupe is a 2door with a truncated roof, as
>> opposed to a full "sedan" style roof.
>>
>> Now when we refer to Corvairs (necessary Corvair content) the 2doors can
>> rightfully be called coupes, because neither early nor late 2doors have
>> full "sedan" style roofs, but truncated roofs. Further, early 4doors are
>> full sedans, while late 4doors are 4door hardtops. This by strict,
>> commonly accepted automotive terms, not marketing terms.
>>
>> My late 4door is still a 4door hardtop to me, though it's called a
>> "sport sedan" by GM marketing. But a rose by any other name....
>>
>> -Mark
>>
>> Harry Yarnell wrote:
>>
>> >I'm sorry; a four (4) door is a sedan. Period. Gild it all you want, 
>> >it's
>> >still a sedan.
>> >Just as a 2 door is a coupe.
>> >
>> >Harry Yarnell
>> >perryman garage and orphanage
>> >perryman, MD
>> >hyarnell1@earthlink.net
>> >
>> >
>> >>While that was certainly GM Marketing's name for it, I feel that 
>> >>calling
>> >>the late 4door any kind of a "sedan" would be a misnomer. Just because
>> >>it has 4 doors instead of 2 doesn't mean it's automatically a sedan
>> >>anything. It's a pure hardtop, by strict definition, not a sedan. Just
>> >>my two cents worth....
>> >>
>> >>-Mark
>> >>
>> >>Thompson, Ed wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>I believe the official GM/Chevy vernacular for late model 4-doors is
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >"sport sedan," at least that's how I've always referred to my/other
> '65-6-7
>> >4-doors.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>Ed
>> >>>'66 110-glide Monza sport sedan, Van Nuys-built
>> >>>CORSA member since '77
>> >>>Milwaukee
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