<VV> Re: VirtualVairs Digest, Vol 3, Issue 114

[John & Barb Ely]

"But Why?"  Here's why:
A man can handle the transmission!  He probably can't handle the engine 
with transaxle attached!  Now, if you've got a fancy shop with a 
transmission jack and a Corvair engine adapter, that's great.  For those of 
us who have counted ourselves lucky over the years to have a slab of cement 
to work on, dropping the engine is not a piece of cake.  I've pulled my 
transmission more times than I care to remember and it was always easier to 
drop the forward end of the power train and slide the transmission out than 
to drop the entire engine/transaxle combination.

That said, Papa Don should be believed.  Bending the input shaft is a 
serious issue.  However, it only requires care to avoid doing this.  And 
taking the car up level, using good jack stands at all four corners.  You 
can also make jigs or other adapters that can be attached to a creeper or 
small floor jack that can assist in handling.

I've forgotten now how heavy the transmission is but I don't think it's 
much over 60 pounds.  If you can't press 60 lbs and then hold it with one 
hand while getting a bolt started, don't do this.  There comes a time when 
paying the mechanic is the best option.  I've reached that time and I don't 
do this anymore, but for the whippersnapper crowd, this technique is 
certainly a reasonable option.

John Ely, 64 Monza Convertible.  I bought it new.





>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:15:16 -0700
>From: vairologist at juno.com
>Subject: <VV> Early Trans Remove
>To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> > From: "Clark Hartzel" <chartzel at comcast.net>
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> > Mr. Hubbell says you have to remove the entire powertrain to get the
> > trans off.  I beg to differ.
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>Smitty says:  But Why!!  At that point you have the shifter (or PG cable)
>disconnected.  The Emerg cable off. The clutch disconnected.  All engine
>seals removed.  Axles out.  Speedo cable off.  Dipsticks off.  Wiring
>disconnected Etc Etc.  Everything is off except the rear motor mount
>which would be backed off to allow the front of the engine to swing down.
>  And then you try to work under the handicap of manhandling the
>transmission.  Arguing that Bill is wrong is like arguing that you can go
>up the Empire State building on either the inside or the outside.  No
>slam intended Clark but I wouldn't want some newbie getting the idea that
>is an option.