<VV> Re: Has anyone on the list BOUGHT Tom's cooling system (resubmitted)

[RoboMan91324 at aol.com]

Hi Crawford,
 
I agree that many topics are beat to death on VV only to be resurrected a few 
weeks later to be beaten to death again.  This won't change but this wasn't 
my issue.  I understand you may be tired of the subject and perhaps thought 
banishing it to Fastvairs was a way to get rid of it.  My point is the topic is 
appropriate for VV whether or not it is speed related or a belt flipping issue 
or an economy issue.
 
I agree that the topic has become moot until somebody performs a test.  I 
also agree with you, Bob and the others that theory dictates the electric fan may 
not be up to the job in all situations the fan may see.  Perhaps it will not 
perform effectively in any major role but I try to keep an open mind.  Here on 
VV, I had my mind changed on alcohol as regards its energy content vs the 
energy required to produce it.  Before being faced with what appeared to be facts 
based on new methods, I felt that theory dictated that alcohol could not be 
produced economically.  There are those who claim to be using the electric fan 
technology successfully but can't present test data.  By all means, test the 
sucker so that both sides of this issue can view the facts.
 
As far as the payback period of $600, that will be for the individual to 
determine.  Yes, a few newbies will buy a few based only on marketing hype.  God 
bless capitalism.  There is a long list of products that people buy for their 
cars that other people argue are useless or at least not worth the cost.  Does 
anybody want to discuss the merits of electric fuel pumps, painted push rod 
tubes, finned oil pans and valve covers, synthetic oil, etc?
 
Rather than banish the topic to Fastvairs, lets continue the subject and tap 
into the brain trust VV represents.  Lets concentrate the subject on a 
properly designed test.  Some have said that 300 miles at one shot is too much.  I 
agree that 300 miles may be more than we need in a given environment but that we 
may need far more than 300 miles total in combinations of outside 
temperature, engine type, inclined roadway, A/C or not, etc.  A few individuals expressed 
interest in becoming guinea pigs.  Lets try to move this forward or let it 
die.  Just let it move forward or die where it belongs .... on VV.
 
JMHO,
 
Doc
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> Well Doc, having survived the early daze of this forum, I will survive this 
> phase, too.  I recall that last month the forum was co-opted with a tirade 
> against the efficiency of the design of the mag-fan and now the latest 
> innovation is whether the Scalzi electric fan is sufficient after my having had to 
> endure five years of posts about how it doesn't work - based on everyone's 
> past applied experience.  Its been hashed and re-hashed (especially as described 
> on Bryan's Solo Is... page) and it all seems to come back to people having 
> the fear of flipping fan belts.  Bryan and you are scolding me for trying to 
> get this discourse moved over to Fastvair.  There is nothing more to say about 
> the Scalzi fan product until someone ponies up and buys one or accepts Bob 
> Helt's challenge to measure the product under controlled conditions. HAS 
> ANYONE ON THE LIST BOUGHT ONE? Well?
> Even if our Corvairs were only driving an alternator, could you guarantee 
> you would never flip another belt?
> <snip>
> As far as predicted fuel savings from this "free" source of cooling, I don't 
> use 600-1200 gallons of fuel driving my Corvair to rationalize such a 
> conversion.
> <snip>
> Sadly, some newbie owner who could repair the worn or incorrect parts 
> causing his belt problem for $200 will buy an electric fan he doesn't need for $600 
> to "solve" a problem already "solved" by Chevy in 1964.  Seems like 
> Crawford