<VV> Thieves (no Corvair)

[Harry Yarnell]

Keys? We don't need no stinking keys! My new GM doesn't NEED keys. No door
or trunk lock, either.

Harry Yarnell
perryman garage and orphanage
perryman, MD
hyarnell1 at earthlink.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "henry kaczmarek" <kaczmarek at charter.net>
To: "virtualvairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> Thieves (no Corvair)


> John
> Actually, there ARE new Laser Cutter key machines that can cut a key by
the
> VIN number.  They have been out now for about 2 years.
>
> Most dealers don't have them, because BOY, are they EXPENSIVE!!!!
>
> Prices range from 3600.00 (for one that can't read the VIN) to about
7000.00
> (for one that can cut from the VIN)
>
> Actually in the case of GM, you don't punch the VIN into the machine.  You
> have to take the vin #, log on to GM Dealerworld, (only dealership
personnel
> have access to the key code sections) then punch in the VIN#, to get the 3
> or 4 character alphanumeric code that you get when you buy the car.
>
> THEN---you have to log onto another website, or have a very recently
printed
> key code book (for the newer cars), that usually only dealers and
locksmiths
> have, to get the number code to plug into the key machine, or to set up an
> old style punch machine to get the key made.
>
> So the URBAN MYTH part of your response is no longer  true.  With the
newer
> vehicles, such as the Chevy Aveo (made for GM by Daewoo), the keys are
> almost impossible to cut without a laser cutter. And at 80.00 dealer cost
> per key (the remote unlock transmitter is part of the key), you don't want
> to be trying to cut them without one. Your GM is gonna get mad!!  What if
> your dealer is too cheap to buy one like mine was??  You get in your parts
> truck and drive across town to a dealer that does, and pay HIM to cut your
> extra keys.
>
> Soon, new vehicles from all manufacturers will have "smart keys" like
> Mercedes-Benz does now. And there will be no need for key cutting
machines.
> But it kinda puts the locksmiths out of the picture, and will be a big
> problem for consumers.
>
> Hank
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Kepler" <bigjohnohio at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "Clark Hartzel" <chartzel at comcast.net>; "Virtual Vairs"
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Thieves (no Corvair)
>
>
> >
> > It seems most car dealers have computerized
> >> key cutting machines these days and thieves just read your VIN on the
> >> dash
> >> and go to a dealer and get duplicate keys made.
> >
> > This is a COMPLETE "urban myth", one that's been around for about 30
years
> > in fact.  Don't believe me?  Take your VIN and ask Mr. Goodwrench to
make
> > you a key!
> >
> > John
> >
> >
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