<VV> Answer to Mustang No Corvair

Fri Sep 9 16:33:06 EDT 2005

Yup -- I always heard that an itty-bitty 177hp 4 cylinder makes a 
roaring answer to an up-to 500 hp V8 (minimum 300 hp, even the V6 has 
80 more hp than Soltice).  And making a "convertible only" instead of 
all the variants is a roaring answer too.  Most telling, GM states 
they plan to sell 20,000 to 30,000 per year.  Ford will sell millions 
of Mustangs in the current iteration.  In fact, the article I read 
said the Ford has already sold more than Soltice would sell in a 
century! In that segment (pony car) we can say whatever we like about 
whomever makes a better car on a technical basis, but it is clear 
which makes the best car on a purely business basis -- just check the 
sales figures for Mustang/Cougar versus Camaro/Trans Am and you will 
note that Ford consistently outsells and consistently makes money -- 
even with that terrible Mustang II.  And even though on paper the GM 
cars seemed better to me, I always bought the Fords ... Corvairs have 
been an aberration for me :-)  Then there is that Corvette ...

At 11:48 AM 9/9/2005, you wrote:
>And Saturn will improve upon it with the Sky!
>
>Dave.. .
>On Sep 8, 2005, at 3:26 PM, Garth Stapon wrote:
>
>>
>>GM has answered the Mustang call today.
>>
>>Not to put words in their mouth but GM has two words for the Mustang.
>>
>>Pontiac Solstice.
>>
>>Bob Lutz is finally making his presence felt at GM.
>>
>>Way to go Bob!
>>
>>Yes I know its a 4 banger, but we have already beat the MPG discussion to
>>death.
>>
>>Pontiac is once again building excitement.
>>
>>Regards, Garth
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: Tony Underwood <tonyu at roava.net>
>>>To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Date: 9/8/2005 11:36:20 AM
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> What would your Corvair say, if it could talk
>>>
>>>At 03:41 hours 09/07/2005, Steven J. Serenska wrote:
>>>
>>>>>"No they're not"
>>>>>"No way"
>>>>>"Early models are best"
>>>>
>>>>Like all good statesmenlike Corvairs, my Corvairs would reply to
>>>>Bill's as follows:
>>>>
>>>>"My dear early friends, let us seek out our common ground and agree
>>>>right here and now:"
>>>>
>>>>        "Mustangs Suck."
>>>
>>>
>>>Most of them, yes...  but not the new one.
>>>
>>>
>>>I must admit that the new Mustang is a dynamite car with great
>>>performance and knockout looks and it doesn't cost much.  And even
>>>the cheapo base model looks good and is a pretty good runner.   Ford
>>>has a winner on their hands.
>>>
>>>I still await GMs answer...   Chrysler as well.   Both of them seem
>>>to have dropped the ball here while Ford has popped in with this new
>>>Mustang which seems to be everywhere; can't cross the street without
>>>tripping over one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What ever happened to those recommendations that  Bob Lutz made to
>>>GM?      And as far as Chrysler is concerned, I remain disappointed
>>>and dismayed at the styling flops they keep kicking out.    Both
>>>these manufacturers really need to rethink their path.   Japan is out
>>>to get the two of them and they don't seem to notice.    Lee
>>>Iacocca's words from ten years ago still ring in the back of my head,
>>>regarding the Japanese assault on US car makers.    And Toyota, one
>>>of the sneakiest of the bunch, is leading the charge.
>>>
>>>Meanwhile, Ford keeps selling Mustangs...
>>>
>>>
>>>Still, the Vairs here all continue to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>"We're paid for."
>>>
>>>"If we break, which seldom happens, we can be fixed in the driveway."
>>>
>>>"I get gas mileage better than that new Mustang, easy."
>>>
>>>"I was built back when people in Michigan still cared about what kind
>>>of car they built."
>>>
>>>
>>>No new Mustang in this driveway, but if I was in the market to buy
>>>something new I'd sure be down at the Ford dealer checking out a
>>>Mustang GT, blue, maybe with some white stripes...
>>>
>>>However, the Vairs would  likely balk at this behavior and kill me in
>>>my sleep.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>tony..
>>>
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