<VV> E85 fuel (No Corvair)

[airvair]

Ken,

Pick up that book and read it. It talks about all that you mentioned,
and gave good reasons why electricity isn't going to replace energy from
oil, and certainly since wind, solar, etc. is so unreliable (wind
doesn't blow constantly, sun doesn't shine 24-7, etc.) And batteries
aren't the answer, either. As much research as has happened on them,
they really cannot power major energy users like intercontinental jet
planes. And "hydrogen power" is really only a transmission medium, not
an energy source. Bottom line is that there are far fewer means of
practical (net energy positive) "renewable" energy sources than you
might think.

-Mark

Ken Campbell wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "airvair" <airvair at richnet.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> E85 fuel
> 
> > The BIG problem as one of them points out is NET ENERGY.
> >
>  All of these
> > are further impacted by increasing population. Once there is no
> energy
> > to produce enough food, the world's population will peak by virtue
> of
> > starvation.
> **********************
> Looks like we need less bedroom energy....
> *******************
> 
> And electric is incapable of powering large farm machinery
> > or for that matter, passenger jets. Game over!
> ************
> Not sure about flying aeroplanes with electric motors, although
> electric
> model planes are very very big deal ... however, I was raised on a 300
> acre
> corn and livestock farm, all farming was done with what you would call
> a
> garden tractor now ( allis chalmers d14 ) , maybe 30 hp at wishful
> thinking.
> we just got up earlier and stayed in the field later ... had
> headlights, you
> know....
> 
> ....oh, and did you know most train engines now are propelled via
> electric
> motors .... one of the original "Hybrids...  " ...........
> 
> ......... seems what we need more than anything is dang good batteries
> ....
> that would make solar (/wind ) energy look pretty good ....      I
> like the
> idea of running windmills like crazy, maybe a million of them in the
> states,
> if we ever get serious ....    and convert water to hydrogen/oxygen
> with the
> excess  power, use the hydrogen & oxygen as a storage method ...
> >
> > I found the book very worthwile reading. It certainly makes one
> think.
> >
> > -Mark
> 
> ************
> Don't worry.... when things get tough(er) in the future, just go to
> your
> cave and watch reality shows ....  The Government "We Care " Truck
> will soon
> arrive with everything you need ....   or maybe just haul you away to
> the
> Soylent Green Factory ... ( heh ) ...
> 
> reargards, ken campbell, iowuh