<VV> What the Heck are Those Things?

Terry Denk tdenk at tampabay.rr.com
Wed Jul 5 21:58:31 EDT 2006


Actually, in the early 1960's the calculations would have been done with a 
very large piece of paper and a slide rule.  A finite elements  computer 
model can do in hours what it used to take weeks to do by hand.

Terry
65 Monza

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron" <ronh at owt.com>
To: "John Kepler" <jekepler at amplex.net>; "'P.H. Raker'" <n556p at yahoo.com>; 
"'Virtual Vairs'" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> What the Heck are Those Things?


> Which goes to show that the GM solution was best, especially when cost is 
> factored in.  Also, I doubt that you re-engineered the body as it would 
> take many hundreds of hours of analysis or access to very large computer 
> programs containing detailed analytic dynamic models of the entire car.
> RonH
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Kepler" <jekepler at amplex.net>
> To: "'P.H. Raker'" <n556p at yahoo.com>; "'Virtual Vairs'" 
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 6:41 PM
> Subject: RE: <VV> What the Heck are Those Things?
>
>
>> Even
>> though the wagon was heavier, the extra stiffness made them handle so
>> much better that they would average a higher speed around a road
>> course.
>>
>> A flexible chassis is what engineering degrees, MIG/TIG welders, and 4140
>> chrome-moly tubing are made for.  This is why the "cocktail shakers" out 
>> of
>> my 67 Monza Convertible are propping the door to the parts shed closed!
>>
>> It really doesn't take an engineering degree to just look at a late
>> convertible and see it as a complete improvisation......no one in their
>> right mind buries 2 unprotected, ungalvanized steel structural members 
>> blind
>> inside a rocker in a world where highway departments are allowed to buy 
>> salt
>> (in my part of the world, I've seen more late convertibles in multiple
>> pieces than fully assembled.....when the 67 came home, about the only 
>> thing
>> holding it together was the throttle linkage!).  The "cocktail shakers" 
>> were
>> further evidence of a band-aid being used stop the arterial hemorrhage on 
>> a
>> marginal piece of engineering.  I broke the paradigm and
>> re-engineered/re-manufactured the platform out of 1/4" wall 2.5" square
>> tube.  My convertible is as stiff as a grizzly's "member" as a
>> result....that's the "good news".  The "bad news" is that it took 5 years
>> and was, without putting too fine a point on it, a colossal waste of
>> time...not that I'm not completely happy with the outcome, just that it 
>> was
>> a massively complicated problem that demanded an even more complex 
>> solution.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
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