<VV> Electric cooling fan results

BobHelt at aol.com BobHelt at aol.com
Sun Jul 29 09:36:25 EDT 2007


COOLING THE CORVAIR ENGINE
WITH AN ELECTRIC FAN


With the  knowledge that the stock Corvair cooling fan consumes some 14   
horsepower at 4800 RPM, and even greater power at potential racing  speeds,  
enthusiasts have long sought a remedy for this considerable  reduction in 
engine  
output. If somehow, the stock engine-driven  cooling fan could be replaced by 
an  
electric-driven fan similar to  those now being used on current production 
cars, 
then the horsepower  required for cooling could be reduced. There have 
previously  been many  attempts to accomplish this feat, but none has ever 
been 
entirely   successful, although rumors abound with success stories. Despite 
this,  
the  concept remains alive with the hope, that maybe there might be  some way 
to  
accomplish this cooling feat; something previously  overlooked or some new 
piece  of equipment that might do the job. If  this cooling method worked, 
not 
only  would considerable engine power  be saved, but also any potential fan 
belt  
problems might be  side-stepped too. One of the initial problems when trying 
to 
compare the  stock cooling setup to an electric fan is the confusion of CFM   
ratings. The stock fan is rated somewhere around 1400 CFM at an engine speed  
of  4000 RPM, while many electric fans are rated at a much higher CFM.  This 
leads  one into thinking that the electric fan might flow more  air. It isn’t 
so, 
but  it’s easy to get confused. The problem is that  the electric fans just 
don’
t  develop the kind of air pressures  required to force the air over the 
engine  restrictions.
At the 2005 International Corvair Convention  in Portland, Oregon, 
a  company, Vairhouse, of Reno,  Nevada was  displaying an electric  
cooling-fan setup they were manufacturing and  selling. They not only had the 
 unit on 
display, but they also had a  Corvair equipped with their cooling unit  that 
was 
being driven around  the convention area. Complete engine cooling was  being 
claimed and the  rumor was that the Corvair car had been driven from  Reno 
with  
this  unit doing the total cooling. If true, it would represent a major  
milestone  accomplishment.
With this new electric cooling-fan system now for sale and 
available,  we  decided to purchase one and run some of our own, relatively  
impartial, tests to  see how good this unit might work. As far as we  know, 
this would 
be the very  first actual independent testing of any  similar cooling setup. 
All 
previously  tests were, of course, run by  the system designer/builder and 
actual facts or  reports were seldom  released. 
So it was, that we  obtained this new cooling system, designed to  
completely replace the  stock engine- driven cooling fan on a Corvair. Ken 
Hand  generously  offered to install the system on one of his Corvairs and 
run the 
tests.  Frank Parker, a Chevrolet engineer (of Corvair/Northstar fame)   
instrumented the test Corvair for data collection and assisted Ken in  
running  the 
tests and evaluating the  data. 



The  Tests
First off I  must apologize to the group for  taking so long to finish this 
electric fan test.  I have had some  personal problems in my life along with 
trying to run a  convention.  BUT, the electric fan test has finally been 
accomplished! Among  other  things, I lost the use of the car that we started 
the test 
with and  the  owner wanted nothing to do with any of the testing. We did get 
 
base line testing  done on the first car so we have 2 cars with base  line 
tests. I think the  comparison of the results will surprise you  when you 
look at 
the  stats.


I also   have to thank Bob Helt for supplying the fan kit. Without his 
offering this  test  would never have happened.


Now,   what I am going to talk a little about are the basic tests, but 
mostly about  the  kit in general and what it takes to install the kit. The 
base 
line  tests were  very interesting. On the first car we were able to get a  
couple of different  outside temperatures and again the numbers will be  
surprising to look at, but as  I recall the engine temps change with  the 
outside temp, 
not directly but on a  bit of a curve. With the  second car base test we had 
a 
fairly warm couple of  days but the  electric fan test day was decidedly 
cooler 
than the base line test.  We  measured outside air temp, oil temp, head temp 
and the lower heater  plenum  air temp, MAP and RPM. The oil temp was taken 
at 
the oil  pressure switch sender  hole; the MAP was taken from the balance 
tube;  
the head temp was taken from a  probe that was bolted against the head  boss 
where the overheat switch would  mount, and held there with a  washer and a 
bolt; 
and the air plenum temp was  taken in the heater  shroud and shielded from 
the 
exhaust manifold radiant heat  by the  shield that is there for the 
thermostat.

I  need  to describe the cars that we did the tests with. The first base  
line tests were  done on a 1965 Monza with a 110 PG. The second car was  a 
1965  Monza with a 95  PG. Both cars were what anyone would  drive most 
anywhere. 
Specifically, the  second car - the 95 PG - was a  borrowed car and as I 
drove 
it I was mildly  surprised at how well it  ran. I hadn’t ever worked on this 
car either!  

To start   the electric fan install, of course, I had to take apart the top 
of 
the  engine,  all the way to removing the top cover. I then trial fitted  
everything. I have to  say by the initial look of things I thought I  would 
have 
this on in a couple of  hours. Well, after really getting  into it I found 
out 
that the kit is not really  a complete ready to  install kit! I had to 
fabricate a 
crank case breather; all  the  tolerances were very close but did not allow 
for the differences in  the  tolerances of manufacturing. I had to ream, 
enlarge 
or elongate  almost every  hole to make things fit the way they should. The  
exception was the top cover; it  fit with no problems at all. In what  looked 
like 
a really good piece - the  alternator mount - I really had  to bend a little 
to get the alternator to fit in  the slot and then I  had to elongate the 
alternator mount holes considerably. The  special  bolts needed were supplied 
with 
the kit. The one thing that was never   really talked about was what to do 
with 
the dipstick. The electric fan is  larger  than the stock fan and I had to 
seriously bend the tube in two  directions to  gain the width needed to clear 
the 
electric fan. Then I  had to drill a hole in  the fan housing to match where 
the 
dipstick  tube was. I also had to match drill  where the vent tube would come 
 
through the fan and also figure out how to hook  it into the PCV  system. 
Since 
this was a very stock engine to begin with, I had  to  contend with a fuel 
pump 
when installing the idler pulley. There was  no  mention of how long a belt 
to 
even start with so I had to use the  old belt and  mark it, and then measure 
it to come up with something  close. I got three  different belts just to be 
sure. The first belt was  way too short and I couldn’t  even get it on 
because the 
idler hit the  fuel pump. The other belt was way too  long and it hit the 
distributor  before the belt got tight. Thank goodness I got  the third belt 
in the  
middle as it was just the right size. I did have to pull  the idler off  the 
mounting bolt to get the belt on, but when adjusted properly  it  cleared 
everything, the fuel pump and the distributor. That is a very  narrow  margin 
to deal 
with. There was also a 12 plate cooler on the  engine and I had to  trim a 
notch in the top flange of that to clear  the belt. I have to say this is  
not for 
the average person to try and  tackle. It took me 2 long days to get the  
testing and the fabrication  done on the second car. Again, the instructions 
that  
were sent with  the “kit” were very basic and generic. Frank and I decided 
to  
hook the  fan up with just a snap switch in the engine compartment instead of 
 
any  fancy relays or temp switches. We did make sure that the fan went  in 
the 
correct  direction! As we began the test, what we did was start  the engine 
and 
then  immediately start the electric fan.


Now for  some observations; there was a lot of air reversion  through 
the electric fan  when it was running statically. In comparison  the stock 
fan 
had NO air reversion  through the fan.  Even with  the electric fan and the 
air 
doors  open, there was still air reversion  back through the fan. Not as much 
mind you,  but there was still air  reversion. 


On the  initial tests we did about  45 MPH on the secondary roads for 
about 3 miles and  then we did  freeway for about 20 miles starting out at 65 
MPH; then we hit some   traffic and had to slow down a little but then were 
able 
to speed back up to  65  MPH and at the end just before we got off the 
freeway 
we sped up to  70 for about  2-3 miles. The numbers we got were very close to 
the 110  PG with about the same  curve on temps. You will find the two 
engines  
very similar even though they were  a 110 and a 95. I won’t cite  numbers 
because 
that will be in the graph from  Frank. One of the  common misconceptions is 
that the 110 is the worst of the two  engines  for heat because of the 
compression ratio. Well, I think we can put  that  theory to bed.


With the electric fan  finally installed we went out for our initial 
test  and did the same  thing as the previous test. It was about 45 on the 
secondary  roads and  once we got to the freeway we accelerated to the 65 MPH 
speed 
we did   before. Let me back up a little and talk about the head temp only as 
a   
reference. If I recall correctly, with the stock fan the temp came up on a  
very  linear scale and then stabilized and stayed at a decent number.  When 
we 
got the  electric fan installed and did the same tests the head  temp came up 
very quickly  and not linear at all. It was almost a  vertical scale until 
the air 
doors opened  and then the temp started to  go a little more linear but the 
head temp never  stopped climbing. We  had to stop on the side of the road 
when 
the over heat  light came on.  We stopped and kept the engine at an idle and 
the 
temp came down  very  quickly. We started out again and then got into traffic 
in a  construction  zone and the temp was a bit high but stayed low enough to 
 
drive the car. When  the traffic cleared a little we accelerated to a  
moderate 
speed and the engine  temp kept going higher. We did not  complete the same 
mileage with the electric  fan because the engine  would not stay cool at 
freeway 
speeds. We got off the  freeway early  and took all secondary roads back to 
Frank’s house. We found that  we  could maintain 40 MPH and the temps would 
stabilize so we didn’t have to  stop  and let the engine cool down. Once when 
we had 
clear road ahead  we accelerated  to 60 MPH and the engine soon overheated 
again so we  stopped for a few minutes  to let it cool then started back at 
our 
slow  pace. We could hold 45 MPH for  quite some time but the head temp would 
 
still start to climb. When I backed it  down to 40 MPH the temp would  very 
slowly 
go back down to the 40 MPH temps which  were right at the  high end of the 
spectrum. So we slowly made it back to Frank’s  house  and proceeded to 
remove the 
electric fan kit and put all of the stock   parts back on.


I think when you see the  numbers you will know that this electric 
fan  does not work on a stock  engine. As I said earlier, I didn’t do 
anything 
special  to the engine,  it was an off the street engine that the average 
person 
would try  to  do this with. I have to also add that “IF” you started out to 
build an  engine  and totally deflashed everything and made sure all the 
passages  were open to the  max in the head and everything was spotless with 
the  lower 
shrouds off, maybe,  just maybe, the electric fan would cool  sufficiently to 
drive on the freeway at  a decent speed. That test may  happen but not in the 
very near future as I would  have to build an  engine just to test the theory 
out.


To   theorize I would think that the engine would have to be very clean, 
all the  air  passages opened up in the heads, no lower shrouds at all, and  
maybe even ceramic  coat the exhaust stacks and the exhaust manifold as  a 
minimum. Then the fan that  was supplied may barely keep up.  

Frank  Parker will have graphs available and I  think I will post them 
on my web site so  Frank will not have to resend  the same info time and 
again.



Ken  Hand,         

Frank  Parker                   

&          

Bob   Helt





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