<VV> I want Compression!
Sethracer at aol.com
Sethracer at aol.com
Thu Dec 25 17:03:08 EST 2008
In a message dated 12/25/2008 9:08:08 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mark.aksamit at yahoo.com writes:
I would like options to increase compression that DO NOT involve
changing any of the stock valve train and its stock geometry!
I am calling upon my colleagues for input!
Thank You!
Merry Christmas!Mark R Aksamit
A noble thought, Mark! Starting with the obvious, there are only two ways of
increasing compression, since it is a ratio. You can either reduce the size
of the chamber or increase the size of the cylinder displacement. (You can do
both.) If you want to keep the cylinder head in the same relative position to
the cam, that limits your options. It eliminates the most common method,
milling of the chamber/cylinder interface, which reduces the chamber volume. If
you are starting with a clean slate 140, you can increase the cylinder
displacement. Boring and stroking are the only two options. Stroking of the Corvair
has not been a real option for the past 40 years, but that may change.
Someone is now making new crankshafts and, with a bunch of attention paid to the
rod vs. cam interface, a longer stroke may be a real option. Bob Coffin is
exploring these options, I believe.
Most folks look at a bore increase, since it has been an option for many
years. Any bit helps, but if you are starting with a fresh slate, replacement
cylinders/pistons - some of which require boring out the cylinder holes in the
case and the sealing surface area in the heads - can provide extra
displacement. Doing this out at the fringe of the cylinder studs will require both upper
and lower sealing management and discipline. Torque values and gaskets must
be carefully chosen and maintained. From all visual indications, the new
Clark's cylinders, with their full-fin cooling might allow a reasonable overbore
(without the head/block boring) and still provide sufficient cooling. If you
go this route, piston top design can also help with compression, but, as one
person mentioned, high pop-ups can interfere with flame front travel (from
the plug area) inside the cylinder.
Another option is to modify the chamber to reduce it's volume. As mentioned,
the usual method is to mill the sealing surface, but that changes your
geometry. Since the cylinder heads are cast aluminum, the chamber can be welded-up
(in spots) to lessen the volume. You could simulate the milled-head effect
by welding up the area opposite the valves, extending, perhaps into the area
between the valves. That is a lot of welding and would still require final
milling for a consistent gasket surface.
Mark - before you go too far in pursuit of compression without valve
geometry changes, you need to grasp another item. What cam will you be using? If you
are using an original Corvair cam, or one correctly ground from a new
billet, you will be able to maintain exact original valve geometry. That is
entirely dependent on the cam base circle being the same as original. All reground
cams reduce that base circle - some a little, some a lot. That moves the
lifter down in the bore, and your geometry changes. That base reduction is
necessary for the lift to be increased or the duration to be changed. So, if you are
installing a "racing" cam
in your "racing" car, most likely you will already be chasing the correct
geometry in your valve train.
So, consider combining this reduction in cam base circle with milling of the
gasket surface on the head. If both are "adjusted" the same amount, that
part of the valve train equation are "as stock." The fulcrum point for the
rocker has moved in the same amount, as has the tip of the valve. Also of note is
that the contact tip of the valve may be relocated outward if the valve seats
are ground, depending on the overall length of the valve.
So, Mark, the bottom line is that, to take full advantage of all the options
available to you building a race motor, you will have to check and recheck
the valve train geometry. Even if you decide to use a stock cam and rockers,
you will need to check to make sure the rocker tip to valve tip contact patch
is correct. An adjustable pushrod will allow you to adjust that pattern to
make optimal use of the valve tip. Once you know the correct pushrod lengths
for each valve - yes all twelve - you decide on what lengths to go to (little
pun there) to provide the right pushrods. Ray Sedman sells pushrods of any
length you want. Also Smith Brothers in Oregon (not the cough drop folks) sell
pushrods for the Corvair, any requested length.
With all this effort to get everything right, can you still screw everything
up? Emphatically YES! I know because I just did. The motor I brought to
Willow Springs and Ventura had valve noise that sounded like someone had dropped
a handful of extra nuts into the valve covers. Upon examination I found the
results of several shortcuts I had taken in the last few weeks before the
races. I didn't know what cam was installed and the heads had been milled a bunch
(before I got them.) Despite my archeological efforts, and measurement after
measurement the valve geometry was severely "compromised". It was nobody's
fault but mine! I would do things differently today.
Anyway, consider increasing compression by milling the heads, all the stuff
you would have to do to verify the correct valve train geometry - you should
be doing anyway!
And a Merry Christmas to everyone!
Seth Emerson
C's the Day! - Corvair, Camaro, Corvette, Christmas
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