<VV> <CORSA Chapters> Enforced CORSA membership

Thu Feb 14 17:21:42 EST 2008

I did note one thing about the survey.
It was directed to CORSA members.
I don't think CORSA wants it to go to non-members.
Am I wrong on this?

As I have said, I have been a member of CORSA for many years.
At least over 20.
I can see the benefits.
I have been a member of the NFCC even longer.
But there are members in our group who basically may or may not come to 
local meetings or events.
And they are not in CORSA, but are members locally just for our newsletter. 
Just to see if there is anything that may interest them.
and we also have a few long time members who are not CORSA, who do not do 
shows, conventions, and realy do not want to join CORSA. Even when the 
convention was in Buffalo they did not come around.
I don't want to be in the position of having to tell them they are no longer 
members.
But it may come to the point where we may have to decide to sever our 
affiliation with the CORSA, or do that.
I think this is a step in the wrong direction...........

Gary Swiatowy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Western Canada CORSA" <westerncanadacorsa at shaw.ca>
To: <whubbell at umich.edu>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>; <chapters at corvair.org>
Cc: "'CORSA/CPF BoD'" <corsabod at corvair.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: <CORSA Chapters> <VV> Enforced CORSA membership

> All I can say is that it is going to be interesting to see what the 
> results
> of the survey are.
>
> I have to disagree with the 100% CORSA Membership for local chapters 
> though.
> It may work fine for a group like SCG, which I would think has highly
> interested members, but not so much for the local chapters.
>
> We've got members that are highly active in local affairs, but just aren't
> interested in joining CORSA, and their main issue is the content of the
> Communique.  I've said this before, and I know I'm going to get shot 
> down...
> But I personally believe, "if you build it they will come", and by that I
> mean re-create the CC into a genuine magazine and market it on retail
> magazine racks.  My local Chapters (Cdn equivalent of a big box book 
> store)
> has magazines for Antique Tractors, and West Coast Female Bikers to name a
> few.  If those kinds of niche markets are viable commercial enterprises,
> certainly a Corvair Magazine would be as well.  CORSA Members would 
> receive
> this new mag at a better price than at the "newstand".
>
> Don't shoot the messenger, I know all the reasons to join CORSA, and 
> believe
> it, I am part of the choir.
>
> But <VV> is by a large extent preaching to the choir.  Most of us here are
> in the top 10% for interest and participation.  As I said before, it's 
> going
> to be interesting to see the results of the survey.
>
> I'll also make a pledge here.  I've been letting the survey stuff pass me 
> by
> because I've been so busy lately.  However, I WILL make the time to make
> sure it gets out to all the non-CORSA members I know about, and do what I
> can to collect as many completed surveys as possible.  Here's to hoping 
> that
> the BOD takes a long hard look at the results and takes some bold action
> based on it.
>
> Regards,
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Bill Hubbell
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:38 AM
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Cc: CORSA/CPF BoD
> Subject: Re: <VV> Enforced CORSA membership
>
>
> Look, folks, this should be simple.  If a chapter wants to be a chartered
> CORSA chapter, their members should all be CORSA members.  If your club
> doesn't like forcing 100% CORSA membership then feel free to drop your
> club's affiliation with CORSA and strike out on your own.  Of course, you
> can still belong to CORSA as an independent member - no reason you have to
> join a local chapter.
>
> As for the issue of dues being too expensive for the "kids" to afford,
> please, give me a break!  Kids these days spend that much money on a night
> out at the movies with their date.  You easily spend that much money on a
> tank of gas.  If the kid does not see at least $38 dollars worth of value 
> in
> joining CORSA then they aren't likely to see much value in joining a club 
> at
> all.
>
> For the record, I joined CORSA when I was 19 years old, in college, broke
> and borrowing money.  Sure, the dues were a lot lower in 1979, but so was
> everything else (do you remember gas at 33 cents per gallon), so it was
> relatively still a good chunk of change.
>
> Bill Hubbell
> SCG President
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Kinzelman, Andy
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:53 AM
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: <VV> Enforced CORSA membership
>
> Guys,
> I have been a member of CORSA for a long time; as well as a member of 
> three
> local & 1 nongeographic chapter. Although there are certainly benefits to
> mandating national club membership
> - this may well be discouraging to the newbies we are trying to attract.
> Although most of us don't consider the cost of membership onerous - some
> young kid (teens to 30) interested in our old cars may see this as cost
> prohibitive. We understand you have to 'pay to play'; but given that the
> Corvair is still the most economical collector car around - I would rather
> see some young people buying & using these cars; as opposed to the
> membership that thinks the cars are too good or important to be used 
> (unless
> they are fully restored, garaged, & trailered). Yes, I am approaching 
> fifty,
> driving a semibeater Corvair every day.  I am proud of that fact. 
> Although
> I have another car or two that have potential to be really nice; it is
> cost/time constraints that keep me from making significant progress on 
> them.
> Just my two cents worth, Andy K.
>
>
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