<VV> Obama vs that woman

[tony.underwood at cox.net]

At 09:25 PM 2/26/2008, Ryon Lucke wrote: 
 
> I'm fascinated that Senator Obama is leading Senator Clinton.  
 
 
Odd that he's done *Nothing* to date, yet people are flocking around him like 
he's the 2nd coming.   ...what does this say about Hillary...?  ;)  
 
I don't expect her to give up or concede anything.   The Clintons will never 
just give up.   There's likely something afoot somewhere in their agenda that 
will discredit Obama...  it's the Clinton way.   If she does NOT get the nod 
from the DNC I wouldn't put it past her to run as an independent and split the 
vote which would make McCain a shoe-in.  I think the Clintons would do it just 
to keep Obama out of the Office, which would open up the field for her to run 
against McCain, who would then be 76, in 4 years.  If Obama were to win, it 
would be 8 years before Hillary would have a chance to take her best shot by 
which time she'd be 68 and pretty long(er) of tooth... ;)     

If she doesn't get the nomination (and I still don't think she actually will) I won't be surprised if she actually does run as an independent.   
 
 
> I had thought he was a media creation, and would disappear after the first few primaries, like Dean did in '04. 
 
 
Dean was a bit of a verbal spendthrift, was too often shooting his mouth off and criticizing the wrong people.   He was also just a bit of a nutbag and 
demonstrated such on too many occasions.  
 
Obama is indeed a media construct and he's being played up like the next JFK...  only without the substance.  ;)   He has a really good speech writer...  spends a lot of time telling the throngs of followers just what they wanna hear.   
 
He'd make an ineffective president... end up a puppet with the left wing of 
Congress pulling his strings.   And people would still praise him simply because he's a democrat.   Slick is living proof of that...  
 
 
> I wonder how many people are actually voting against Clinton, as opposed to actually being for him. 
 
 
I keep wondering why people would be voting for her in the first place...  she's 
Clinton-Light, poster child for the card-carrying Liberal leftists who worshiped 
Slick from the beginning because he played a mean sax and his middle name was Jefferson and he told them all just what they wanted to hear.  
 
 
 
> I like McCain because of those 5 years he was a Vietnamese POW. I figure he learned important stuff during that time. Some of the less sensible things he has said, I hope can be chalked up to playing to the media constituency, in 
hopes they'll cover him reasonably honestly. In any case, he's a better choice 
than the democrats have to offer. 
 
 
 
He ain't my favorite; I wanted Fred...  but I agree that we're much more likely 
to be better off under a McCain presidency than either of the left-wing 
offerings.  
 
 
tony..