In a message dated 8/5/2009 5:33:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jvhroberts at aol.com writes: I had to REALLY try to make these fade even a LITTLE bit... Ever run them on a track? That's about the only place you'll get them to fade, but that depends a lot on the material on the shoes. I had Kevlar and they didn't fade, that I could tell. Ned