<VV> Hardtops WAS It's time

Bill Elliott corvair at fnader.com
Wed Dec 9 09:37:06 EST 2009


Actually I had one and while it did require two people, it was due to the 
size and not the weight. My wife was easily able to be the second person. 
It seemed to weigh about the same as the BMW hardtop for my E30 'vert (which 
is just as cumbersome)... but yes, definitely more than the typical 2 seater 
hardtop.

The hardtop really change the lines of the car (some like, some dislike) but 
were well made and did a pretty good job at sealing up the interior.

Knowing that I've only seen a couple of them ever, I really shouldn't have 
sold mine, but I wasn't planning on another early 'vert anytime soon.

Bill


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> Ever see the lift-off hardtop for the EM Corvair convertible that some
> aftermarket company offered? Similar in idea to the Corvette removable
> hardtop for the 'vette convertibles. Interesting, but due to its size
> weighed a lot more than was practical. You needed a hoist to lift it off.
>
> -Mark
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: kenpepke at juno.com <kenpepke at juno.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Hardtops WAS It's time
>>
>> The wife of a General Motors VP always ordered a convertible.  By that
> time the 4 door convertible sedan and the two door convertible coupe body
> styles had been mostly dropped leaving only the 2 door convertible sedan.
> It was noticed that she never put the top down.  Why order the convertible
> model if you do not put the top down?  She liked the lower top silhouette
> of the convertible and the no 'B' pillar look with the windows down.
> Fisher Body responded with a 'convertible styled hard top' 2 door sedan,
> without a 'B' pillar.  Over time the cumbersome name was reduced to 
> hardtop
> convertible then to hardtop.  That model was carried through most of 
> Fisher
> Body built cars for years.  Again, it was the original basic economy / no
> frills car idea that left the EM Corvair without a 'hardtop' model even
> though once the convertible sedan was introduced for '62 it would have 
> been
> very easy / inexpensive to have offered the 'hardtop' style.  Too bad :-(
> I always thought it would be
>>   fun to cut down a '62 Impala steel top and weld it to an EM convertible
> :-)
>> Ken P
>>
>> ****************************
>>
>> ScottyGrover at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 12/6/2009 10:14:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> tony.underwood at cox.net writes:
>>
>> The  definition I was able to find was that "hardtop" was a shortened
>> expression for "hardtop-convertible" which was a term coined in the
>> 1940s to define a 2 or 4 door (non-roadster) car with a fixed roof
>> with no 2nd pillar extending to mid-roof, but "pillarless" like a
>> convertible.   Is this correct?
>>
>>  -----------------------
>> Correct according to my memory.
>>
>> Scotty from Hollyweird
>>
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