<VV> For the Engine Builders

[RoboMan91324 at aol.com]

Hank,
 
I am behind in reading the VV posts so I don't know if your  questions have 
been answered but here goes.
 
The 1964 110 heads will fit on your jugs but you will  most definitely not 
get 110 performance.  Those heads were designed to work  with the longer stroke 
164 engines introduced in 1964.
 
I would not use the 102 HP heads.  That engine develops  its power at high 
RPM which is OK in one of the cars but the weight and poor  aerodynamics of the 
FCs need an engine that develops torque at the low  end.  The 102 was offered 
in the FCs only in one year for a very short time  but very few sold for 
obvious reasons.  The code was VD and nobody wants  VD, right?  :-)
 
I have a VD engine but I will be changing it to a 110 or maybe  a 95 so that 
I will have a "correct" case but a useable engine.  You may  want to consider 
this.  You will need to carve out some of the aluminum on  the case halves to 
clear the swing of the crankshaft.  You will also need  164 HP jugs because 
they have notches at the bottom for crankshaft clearance as  well.
 
You will be able to use your 1964 heads with 1964 jugs but not  with later 
jugs unless you bore the heads out.  The 1965 and later jugs  have a bigger 
outside diameter for better head gasket sealing.  This is  recommended.  I believe 
you will need to change the camshaft, as well as  the distributor or at least 
the internal components to get the full 110  performance.  You may want to 
work with later carbs as well.  There  were improvements over the years.  Grant 
can comment on this  extensively.
 
The benefit of your FC engine is that it has the proper oil  fill rig and an 
FC code.  Original 164 CI FC engines are very rare so if  you want 110 
performance, try to find a 1964/65 FC engine and pay through the  nose, modify a 145 
CI engine into a 164 CI engine or pop a 164 CI car engine in  there.  You can 
suffer through with car oil filler setup or modify the  engine by boring out th
e case for the FC oil filler.
 
Doc
1960 Corvette; 1961 Rampside; 1962 Rampside; 1964 Spyder  Coupe, 1965 
Greenbrier; 1966 Canadian Corsa Turbo Coupe; 1967 Nova SS; 1968  Camaro Ragtop
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In a message dated 3/6/2009 4:23:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:05:47 -0500
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Subject: <VV> For the Engine  Builders
To: Virtualvairs at corvair.org
Cc:  Corvairman60 at hotmail.com
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Need assistance from those with a lot of engine building  experience. 

I bought a 61 FC motor last fall for my 62 rampy.  It  has 80HP heads on it 
presently.  Paired with a PG that doesn't provide  the horsepower i'd like it 
to have. 

So I bought a set of 64 110 HP  heads from Bryan Blackwell to boost up the 
power.

The heads were in  pretty good shape, but there's a couple of loose guides, 
and you can tell from  the bluing on the parts that the engine (one that Bryan 
was stripping down)  had been run hot, and more than once.  So I'm going to go 
through and  replace all the parts.  

But before I do that, Here's the quandary  I find myself in.  

Since the 64 engine had a longer stroke than  the 61-63, Will I get 
equivalent 110 HP from these heads using the shorter  stroke 61 engine?   Would 
machining down the Head Gasket surfaces  some provide more CC's to increase the power 
to where I want it to be?  

Would I be better off with 102 HP heads? 

Will be using 61  carbs with Manual choke, I'll probably jet them a bit 
bigger.   

Any input from those with experience would be great, and if someone  could 
cross post this to fastvair I'd appreciate it. 


Best  Regards
HANK 

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