<VV> Turbo w/140 heads

James P. Rice ricebugg at mtco.com
Mon Mar 23 23:26:59 EDT 2009


All:  I bought a 1965 Monza w/Corsa dash and a 66 transaxle back in the late
70's from a local who loved to build cars of all kinds, but would sell them
almost immediately.  He liked the challenge.

It was 0.060 over and had a large SU (1.75"?) and water injection similar to
what Warren LeVeque sells today.  It had a MSD ignition, but I don't
remember what turbo he put on it. It would push you back in the seat from
30mph in 4th right up until you ran out of room or nerve.  With no popoff,
boast control was by lifting your foot.  Strangest sensation to be lifting
while maintaining the push into the seat acceleration. I saw over 14psi a
few times, but would then chickened out.  I ran the highest octane I could
find, but it still ate spark plugs.

I sold it and some other 'Vairs to buy YS-042 in the early 80's, which I
then sold in the mid 80's to get myself out of debt in case I got made
redundent as Caterpillar was going thru a bad time, not unlike it is today.
(Along with most everbody else.)  About two years ago I tried to buy the
Stinger and then the turbo back.  Neither of the CO's were interested.
Image that.

Go for it, but talk to Warren about pop-off valves and his water injection
system.  The system that car had, like Warrens, uses turbo boost to
pressurize a container, which forces the fluid out.  There has to be some
unknown time delay.  I often wondered if my car didn't need a mechinical
water injection system to start spraying before the turbo went positive
boost plus the presurized water injection system.  I don't know how much
fluid injection is to much, but I was suspecious what my car had wasn't
enough!

Historically Yours,
                   James Rice
                   CORSA member since mid-70's
                   Former Chairman of the Competition Committee
                   Member of original CPF Advisorary Committee
                   CORSA/CPF BoD member and CPF Liaison 1999-01
                   Occasional contributor to the Communique

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:35:38 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
From: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> 140 heads
To: david miller <dmiller66a at hotmail.com>, virtualvairs at corvair.org

I have a friend in Covina Calif. who has 140 heads w/ an e flow 180 and an
exhaust housing made by CROWN. He was using the Weber 45 DCOE as I recall.
This car was as fast as some V8's. He did have some issues to deal with as
far as detonation and reliability. He also bought his gasoline at a small
local airfield. Good luck.
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado

-----Original Message-----
>From: david miller <dmiller66a at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 23, 2009 10:26 AM
>To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: <VV> 140 heads
>

>Hello,
>I'm building a '65 turbo Corsa, using the "E Flow" turbocharger.  I was
wondering if I could use 140 heads instead of the stock turbo heads. Also,
what do I need to do to run '64 heads on '65 cylinders?
>Thanks.
>CM
>




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