<VV> Was Neutral Safety switch - now depressing the clutch pedal

[J R Read_HML]

Hi Mark,

We all have our own ways.  So long as I'm not on a serious grade, I don't 
bother with the hand brake and leave the car in the gear which I intend to 
use next (1 or R).  If it IS a serious grade, I still do that and use the 
hand brake as well.  So, I ALWAYS depress the clutch before turning the key, 
giving the starter less work to do.

Oh, with the car in gear - it becomes - depress the clutch, turn the key, 
go.  With the car not in gear - it becomes - turn the key, release the 
brake, depress the clutch, select a gear, finally - go.  Either way, the 
clutch gets depressed.  I think that my way is faster.

Later, JR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Corbin" <airvair at earthlink.net>
To: <Sethracer at aol.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> Neutral Safety switch


>
> As far as putting in the clutch when starting a manual trans Corvair, why?
> And NO, I don't put in the clutch, because that's a wasted effort. It
> always annoyed me when I'd step into my car after my mechanic had parked
> it, only to hit the starter and have the car leap forward. Stupid idiot
> didn't leave it in neutral and pull the handbrake like he's supposed to.
> That's how Corvairs are supposed to be left, in neutral with the handbrake
> pulled.. So every time after leaving it with him, I have to check to see 
> if
> the car's in neutral, like it's supposed to be. (Note that I live in the
> flatlands, Seth.)
>
> Now if you REALLY want to improve modern cars, have it so that manual 
> trans
> cars can't be started unless the trans is in neutral. LOL
>
> -Mark
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
>> Subject: <VV> Neutral Safety switch
>>
>> I always wondered about the usefulness of a neutral safety switch - the
>> actual requirement. Of course, all new cars, sticks or automatics, have
>> something you have to do in order to let the engine crank. Beyond that,
> the most
>> obvious is the newer "Audi switch". That is the interlock which requires
>> you  push on the brake pedal to allow the automatic trans to be placed
> into
>> gear.  Thank You to the numb-nut Audi drivers! As far as the Corvair-era
>> cars, did the car companies think that automatic transmission drivers
> were
>> stupider than manual transmission drivers? Is that the reason for the
> neutral
>> safety switch? That era had no "depress-clutch to crank" switch. That
> didn't
>>  show up until the 80's or so.  I guess the companies assumed the stick
>> drivers would push in the clutch. Now our newest cars will be saddled
> with
>> another electronic big-brother circuit - closes the throttle when the
> brake is
>>  fully applied, or something like that. Should we call it the "Toyota
>> switch"?  Thank You to the numb-nut Toyota drivers!
>>
>> Seth  Emerson
>>
>> In a message dated 5/13/2010 5:48:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> airvair at earthlink.net writes:
>>
>> The  cable we're going to use is an adaptation of a heater cable. I don't
>> yet  feel certain enough that it would operate a dash-mounted neutral
>> safety
>> switch in a positive enough manner to allow the switch to  operate
>> precisely, so I am still advising relocating the switch to the  tunnel.
> But
>> it appears to be good enough to suffice for a gear  indicator.
>>
>
>
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