<VV> Parking Brake Cable question - cable wrong for LM ?

Charles Lee Chaz at ProperProper.com
Thu Sep 16 00:39:09 EDT 2010


Tim,

Thanks for the research -

Where do you see 3 ?   I see a total of 4, 1 for EM, 1 for vans, and 2 for 
LM :
I only see 2 kinds for the LM, and Clark's recommends the 1967-1969 for all 
LMs as stronger and interchangeable.

What grade are the nuts ?  I'd think 5 is strong enough ?

I'll call them in the morning and see what's up ?

Here's what I have so far :
http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/1967MonzaParkBrakeInstallation.htm

Charlie



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
To: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>; "Charles Lee" 
<Chaz at ProperProper.com>; "Daniel Monasterio" <dmonasterio at hotmail.com>; 
"VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?


>I just took a look at the Clarks catalogue and they show 3 different front 
>handbrake cables for Corvair cars. Which one did you get? And right below 
>them are the nuts (to be ordered seperately).
> TS in DC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 9:16 PM
>>To: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>, Daniel Monasterio 
>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?
>>
>>Understood. You sound frustrated to me so maybe just take a deep breath 
>>and walk away from it for awhile. That has worked for me many times over 
>>in my career as an auto mechanic. If you believe the cable is too short, e 
>>mail Clarks and ask them to measure another cable length and compare that 
>>measurement with yours. This will keep them from sending another one that 
>>is too short and you having to wait more for something that also will not 
>>work. Are you certain you are routing the cable properly? Without trying 
>>to make you more frustrated, the PROPER way to do this is to:
>>1. Hook up cable to lever (ball end)
>>2. Route cable properly to undercarriage hooking up to (lubed) pulleys
>>3. Install forward nut onto (lubed) stud [part of cable]
>>4. Put thru rearward cable (the one that goes to both rear wheels)
>>5. Install rear nut and adjust for proper handbrake operation
>>Again, wishing you good luck and I hope to see you and your car next month 
>>in Palm Springs
>>Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 8:58 PM
>>>To: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>, Daniel Monasterio 
>>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?
>>>
>>>PS:
>>>
>>>No, it's easier to work inside the car - seats removed, plenty of room, 
>>>and
>>>nosy neighbors can't see me inside the car (except my feet sometimes)
>>>because I have to put it up on stands to work underneath.
>>>
>>>Most problems have many solutions - the trick is to find a solution that
>>>doesn't cause even more problems !
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
>>>To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; "Daniel Monasterio"
>>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>; "VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:26 PM
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> It wouldn't. But it will be easier to install if you finish the job 
>>>> under
>>>> the car than trying to finish it under the dash. And I believe you are
>>>> getting pretty good at this job.Did you compare the lengths of the 2
>>>> cables? I know the original had broke but you still ought to be able to
>>>> compare the 2 lengths. As always, wishing you good luck.
>>>> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>>>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 8:10 PM
>>>>>To: Daniel Monasterio <dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs
>>>>><virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Just curious, but how would that change the length ?
>>>>>
>>>>>~Cz
>>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>  From: Daniel Monasterio
>>>>>  To: Charles Lee ; VirtualVairs
>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:01 PM
>>>>>  Subject: RE: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Think you are working backwards. You should start at the ball end,
>>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Daniel Monasterio
>>>>>
>>>>>  > From: Chaz at ProperProper.com
>>>>>  > To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>>>>  > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:42:17 -0700
>>>>>  > Subject: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Is the park brake different for EM and LM ?
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > If so, is one shorter, and what other visible difference is there ?
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Problem : I just installed Clark's cable, and reached into the bag 
>>>>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>>  > adjustment nuts ? Aarrgghh....
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > I guess they figured we'd re-use the old ones ? OK, but the old 
>>>>> ones
>>>>> are
>>>>>  > rusted tight to the old cable and I can't get them off, so I'll 
>>>>> just
>>>>> get
>>>>>  > some new ones, right ?
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > To be certain that I got the right ones before walking a mile each
>>>>> way, I
>>>>>  > called Clark's to get the right size :
>>>>>  > The girl says "5/16 24" so I hike over to the hardware store to get
>>>>> the two
>>>>>  > (2) 18 cent 5/16 24 nuts that Clark's does not include (why not ?).
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > So rethread the cable and wrestle with the 5/16 24's a while but no
>>>>> go, so I
>>>>>  > rip the cable back out and take it with me this time (those pulleys
>>>>> under
>>>>>  > the dash are NOT fun !)
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > So I try a few more 5/16 24, but they're not 5/16 ***24*** !
>>>>>  > They're 5/16 ***18***.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > OK, so back home and thread the needle again, - I'm getting pretty
>>>>> good at
>>>>>  > this, the third time.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Now, the ball doesn't reach the handle under the dash, so I go down
>>>>> under
>>>>>  > and extend the nuts all the way to the end of the adjustment part 
>>>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>  > tail end to get a few more inches.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Still the ball end does not reach.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Have I been short changed ?
>>>>>  > Do I have an EM park brake cable ?
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Or, am I missing something (again) ?
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Thanks in advance for your support !
>>>>>  > Charlie
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >
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