<VV> Need a gas tank

[peter koehler]

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:17:17 -0500
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>   1. Research Value WAS  Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners 
>(Ken Pepke)
>   2. Re: Research - Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners (Matt 
>Nall)
>   3. Re: ROLL BARS FOR GREENBRIER (N2VZD at aol.com)
>   4. Re: PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black (J R 
>Read)
>   5. Re: RUTH GOODMAN (Rick Norris)
>   6. PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black (J R Read)
>   7. Re: PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black 
>(wfcc at mediacombb.net)
>   8. FORGED RODS? (N2VZD at aol.com)
>   9. Re: PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black, now 
>coffee??
>      (Rick Norris)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:43:01 -0500
>From: Ken Pepke <kenpepke at juno.com>
> Subject: <VV> Research Value WAS  Black 63 Spyder 
>Aircleaners
> To: Vair Views <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> While it may seem tedious to chase a detail like this, 
>there is value in establishing, as close as possible, 
>original specs even though many do not think it 
>worthwhile for just a Corvair.  The exact date of the 
>change may never be established but Ray has presented 
>some hard evidence.  Remember, at the start of this 
>thread there were highly knowledgable persons that 
>believed that the 62s were black and the 63s were chrome 
>... and it may have had something to do with either 
>leftover or excess stock of parts or even crankcase 
>ventilation!  
> 
> Ken P
> Wyandotte, MI
> Worry looks around; Sorry looks back, Faith looks up.
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>> From: "Smitty" <vairologist at cox.net>
>> Date: December 16, 2011 12:47:55 PM EST
>> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Subject: <VV> Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners
>> 
>> Smitty Says;  Curiosity is one thing, but really how 
>>important is it to know 
>> whether they were all painted or chrome unless you are 
>>having a problem with 
>> the classifier at a National Convention concours.  Who 
>>cares?  What is in it 
>> for you?
>> Years ago in the Early days of CORSA NC there was a man 
>>with a 63 convert he 
>> was showing in the "stock, original" class.  He had 
>>bought the car new and 
>> it had never been to a mechanic.  It had a 64 type Mag 
>>fan on it.  He and 
>> the classifying judges were upset almost to the point of 
>>fisticuffs over 
>> whether the fan was stock on the car.  Outside of that 
>>gentleman and the 
>> small group of dissenting judges, who really cares and 
>>how important is it 
>> to make a liar out of him.  Do I think the fan was 
>>original.  Yes.    Do I 
>> know if a number of chrome 64 aircleners made it onto 
>>some 63s ?  No!  Do I 
>> think it is necessary to go on and on about the subject 
>>when nobody can 
>> prove one way or the other?  No.
>> I am sure the Chrome aircleaner was one of the first 
>>visual upgrades a 63 
>> owner would make after he saw the 64s.  I would have 
>>(and did) on all my 
>> Early Spyders.
>> One can collect all the data from the liers, posers, the 
>>well intentioned, 
>> etc. he wants to, but unless he can track that one car 
>>from the assembly 
>> line to today's owner, it still stands that 63 Spyders 
>>had painted 
>> aircleaners. 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:58:40 -0500 (EST)
>From: Matt Nall <patiomatt at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Research - Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> Ray has presented some hard evidence
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>  NO he didn't!!  he ASKED the question!
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> DTerry  gave the only    substantiated evidence!
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> http://www.vv.corvair.org/pipermail/virtualvairs/attachments/20111214/72e317e7/attachment.jpe
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> 
> Matt Nall
> Charleston, Oregon
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:09:55 -0500 (EST)
>From: N2VZD at aol.com
> Subject: Re: <VV> ROLL BARS FOR GREENBRIER
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> I do not know the story behind these , but they came 
>with the 64 greenbrier 
> I just parted out. I have pictures!
> they are now ready for pickup.
> I am asking $100.00 FOB my shop in Memphis NY.  13112
> more details (pictures ) , email me. I WILL NOT SHIP 
>THEM.  look  like easy 
> install.
> I also still have a 66 saginaw 4 spd  transaxle here  , 
>any  interest?
> I am also curious if anybody ever saw a roll bar setup 
>like this  before?  
> looked like a dealer install(aftermarket?) when vehicle 
>was new  .
> Regards, Tim Colson
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:14:35 -0600
>From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are 
>black
> To: "Mike McCrae" 
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> I can only say that if you have to ask that question, 
>you have not been into 
> Corvairs or VV for very long.
> 
> Ever heard the term "curmudgeon"?
> 
> Later, JR
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike McCrae" <mmccrae6 at cox.net>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:48 PM
> Subject: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black
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> 
>> ?looney tune land?....?Left coast Wacko?s:...? Who the 
>>hell are you 
>> anyway....?
>> I resent those statements...
>> Mike McCrae  ?Corvairs Only? a performance Shop
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:03:44 -0500
>From: "Rick Norris" <ricknorris at suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> RUTH GOODMAN
> To: "shortle" 
><shortle556 at earthlink.net>,	<virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> Sorry to here Steve lost his wife.
> My condolences to him.
> 
> Rick Norris
> #36 Sunoco Corvair
> www.corvairalley.com
> 
>>I was very sorry to hear this morning the passing of 
>>longtime CORSA and 
>>Rocky Mountain Corsa member Ruth Goodman. Please keep 
>>Steve Goodman in your 
>>thoughts and prayers during these times.
>> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:26:16 -0600
>From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black
> To: "VirtualVairs AA" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
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>Folgers?  We drink Maxwell House in the Midwest! <GRIN>
> 
> I'm impressed.  Thanks for the education.
> 
> Later, JR
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike McCrae" <mmccrae6 at cox.net>
> To: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are 
>black
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> 
>> Roger that JR......just tired of hearing it!
>> Actually, just finished my 67th Corvair engine...!  I 
>>have a Corvair 
>> Performance shop here in San Diego.....
>> Best wishes....Mike McCrae
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:46:43 -0600 (CST)
>From: wfcc at mediacombb.net
> Subject: Re: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are 
>black
> To: J R Read <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
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> We Drink Luzianne with Chicory down here in the 
>South.....
> 
>                                 Ed
> 
>            West Florida Corvair Club
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> Don't Quite Know How This Came Up ???/
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: J R Read <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> To: VirtualVairs AA <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:26:16 -0600 (CST)
> Subject: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black
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>Folgers?  We drink Maxwell House in the Midwest! <GRIN>
> 
> I'm impressed.  Thanks for the education.
> 
> Later, JR
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Mike McCrae" <mmccrae6 at cox.net>
> To: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are 
>black
> 
> 
>> Roger that JR......just tired of hearing it!
>> Actually, just finished my 67th Corvair engine...!  I 
>>have a Corvair 
>> Performance shop here in San Diego.....
>> Best wishes....Mike McCrae
>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:13:35 -0500 (EST)
>From: N2VZD at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> FORGED RODS?
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> has anyone INSTALLED the forged rods Clark's offers? 
>(part number  C12033)
> just wondering if they are a pain to torque (access the 
>lower bolts etc )  
> or anything unusual about them??
> Regards, Tim Colson
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:17:20 -0500
>From: "Rick Norris" <ricknorris at suddenlink.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are 
>black, now
> 	coffee??
> To: <wfcc at mediacombb.net>,	"J R Read" 
><hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Cc: VirtualVairs AA <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
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> Here at Corvair Alley in the hills of West "By Gawd" 
>Virginia we drink CDM 
> (Cafe Du Monde) imported directly from Nawlins (New 
>Orleans) by a nefarious 
> family  member living in the area. However, Momma has 
>not yet learned to 
> make beignets ( ben-yeahs) those fluffy pastries with 
>powdered sugar on top 
> to go with the CDM.
> 
> Kernel "Chuck" Norris
> 
> 
>> We Drink Luzianne with Chicory down here in the 
>>South.....
>>
>>                                 Ed
>>
>>            West Florida Corvair Club
>>
>> Don't Quite Know How This Came Up ???/
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: J R Read <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: VirtualVairs AA <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:26:16 -0600 (CST)
>> Subject: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are black
>>
>> Folgers?  We drink Maxwell House in the Midwest! <GRIN>
>>
>> I'm impressed.  Thanks for the education.
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike McCrae" <mmccrae6 at cox.net>
>> To: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> PCV WAS 63 Spyder air cleaners are 
>>black
>>
>>
>>> Roger that JR......just tired of hearing it!
>>> Actually, just finished my 67th Corvair engine...!  I 
>>>have a Corvair
>>> Performance shop here in San Diego.....
>>> Best wishes....Mike McCrae
>>>
>>
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