<VV> Research - Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners

Sun Dec 18 20:22:41 EST 2011

Hi Ray,
I am one that appreciates your interest and fascination with these cars. I also have a lot of interest but probably do not have your persistence or stamina. Though I have all the books you cited and certainly more in my library than what you stated certain things are of less value (to me). I wonder about things like the PCV system (this was an option?). I wonder about things like the AIR system (this also was an option that people could order and pay extra money for?). I wonder was the chrome turbo air cleaner ever an extra money option over the black air cleaner? I am not as successful in getting answers than you are and I am not much older than you are. I was born about a year after the first Corvair was made. So my friend, I salute and respect you in your endeavors. Keep it up please.
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
I don't wonder about Mazda Boat Engines but I do wonder about Smitty  

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ramon Rodriguez III <corvairgrymm at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 17, 2011 6:22 PM
>To: "lonwall at corvairunderground.com" <corvairs at pacifier.com>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> Research - Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners
>
>I also have located (and presented a copy of) a 1963 print ad for the
>Corvair that clearly shows the Spyder engine room with a black air cleaner
>housing.  That's pretty solid.
>Here it is again:
>http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f90/Swiftblade13/?action=view&current=63Spyderad.jpg
>
>I've also spoke with approximately five original owners of 63 Spyders who
>say they were black.  Of course, I can prove neither that they were
>original owners, nor that their memory is correct.  Still it's pretty
>compelling evidence especially given that not one person has contacted me
>and stated that they were the original owner of a 63 Spyder with a chrome
>air cleaner, while seven did exactly that and reported black.
>
>Thank you very much to all those who showed your support of my inquiries,
>as well as those who participated in my survey.  I am learning all I can
>about the Corvair, including it's history, so that I might carry the torch
>for the next generation.  I have read "The Corvair Decade", "Corvair by
>Chevrolet: Experimental and Production cars", "Corvair: A photo history",
>and others cover to cover (most numerous times).  I've started collecting
>issues of 60's magazines that have feature articles on the Corvair
>(including the Car Life reprint from Clark's), and I have just obtained
>copies of "The Classic Corvair" and Charlie "Bud" Doerge's new book "Don
>Yenko and the Yenko Stinger" and I even have a copy of "Unsafe at Any Speed
>that is older than I am.   I have listened to Ralphie's speech at the 1991
>CORSA convention in it's entirety.  I have read the Robert Benzinger speech
>from the 1975 convention.  I love to relate his story about the Corvair
>flywheel to my fellow hobbyists.  My next purchase (when I can afford it)
>will be "Corvair Secrets".  I can identify the year of any Corvair (Car,
>not yet FC's) given that all it's features are original, and I'm slowly
>learning more and more about how the cars are put together and how to
>repair them.  I also own copies of "How to Hotrod Corvair Engines", "How to
>Keep your Corvair Alive", the CORSA tech guide 1 & 2, "Corvair Basics",
>1961 through 1963 and 65-66 factory shop manuals, and the 1965 assembly
>manual.  I have attended the DACC Homecoming the past two years (which is
>over 550 miles from home), I managed to attend one day of the Buffalo CORSA
>convention and plan to do my best to make it to the 2012 convention.   All
>of this and five Corvairs (three projects in the works and two on the road)
>on a budget that probably wouldn't pay a "middle class" electric bill.
>
>All of this, at age 31.  I might ask some dumb questions and make plenty of
>mistakes.  Some of you might not approve of my fat tires and loud exhaust,
>and some might look down on my amateur body and rust repairs, but I
>challenge you to find anyone more determined to carry the Corvair hobby
>into the next 50 years.
>
>
>Ray "Grymm" Rodriguez III
>Lake Ariel, PA
>1966 Corsa 140 coupe (daily driver)
>1965 Corsa 180 coupe (under construction)
>1965 Corsa 140 coupe (for sale/under construction)
>1963 Monza PG coupe (daily driver)
>1962 Monza PG coupe (under construction)
>
>
>
>On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 6:19 PM, lonwall at corvairunderground.com <
>corvairs at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry Matt, but a picture of a black air cleaner on a 63 proves
>> nothing.  (That's 48 years of tampering) But you're right on the other
>> point. Getting posts confused is just part of the internet destruction
>> of proper history.
>>
>> Lon
>> www.corvairunderground.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/2011 2:58 PM, Matt Nall wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >   Ray has presented some hard evidence
>> >
>> > ======================================
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >    NO he didn't!!  he ASKED the question!
>> >
>> >
>> > DTerry  gave the only    substantiated evidence!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.vv.corvair.org/pipermail/virtualvairs/attachments/20111214/72e317e7/attachment.jpe
>> >
>> >
>> > Matt Nall
>> > Charleston, Oregon
>> > http://tinyurl.com/The-Patio
>> > http://tinyurl.com/Matts-Tech-Pages
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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