<VV> Survivor cars, beaters, and...

[Bill Hubbell]

Bob,

What was your score?

I entered the John Glenn Corvair in the Carlisle Concours and scored something like 75 points. However, every other car in it's class (early open) won gold medals!

Bill Hubbell

On Jul 1, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Michael Kovacs <kovacsmj at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I vote for a "beater" class. 
> 
> MIKE KOVACS
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> The topic interests me.
> 
> At any car show, should there be a class offered for
> 
> "Survivor" cars, cars that remain essentially in their original state 
> and, while not perfect are well-preserved?
> 
> "Daily Drivers," which could be anything -- junk, nice, or damn nice?
> 
> "Beaters," cars that exist for no purpose other than transportation?
> 
> 
> Regarding "survivors," I see the appeal.  Survivors should not be simply 
> any unrestored car, but cars that have survived in their original state 
> and in flawed but generally nice condition.
> 
> "Daily Driver" is, I think, too catch-all a category.  You could be 
> driving a near-show car daily, or a junker daily.
> 
> And "Beaters," well, at a car show they turn me off.  I have been to 
> some car shows where one or more entrant has a rolling piece of crap but 
> is proud of the fact that it is still a running driving car.  I'm sorry, 
> but at the core of the hobby is the preservation of the vehicles, and 
> preservation mean more than making it run while the cosmetics rot away.
> 
> 
> Now, persons with long memories will remember that I once owned the 
> Corvair that recorded the lowest score ever in a CORSA Convention 
> Concours.  Was it inappropriate for me to enter that car -- a 
> ratty-looking Greenbrier that I had driven coast-to-coast for the 
> Convention -- in the Concours?  Perhaps.  At the time there was no "car 
> display" event, and I wanted to show off my having made the trip.  In my 
> defense I later restored that van and showed it at a subsequent Convention.
> 
> 
> But for there to be any classes for "survivors" et al there needs to be 
> a set of standards that guide eligibility, just as classification rules 
> determine the appropriate classes for fully-restored cars.  So:  Should 
> there be such classes?  If so, what should the standards be?
> 
> 
> --Bob Marlow
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