<VV> CORRECTION Re: LPG vs. Gasoline Re: CNG was Propane

[jvhroberts at aol.com]

Keep in mind LNG is impractical for your typical automobile.

John Roberts

-----Original Message-----
From: FrankCB at aol.com
To: FrankCB at aol.com; hharpo at earthlink.net; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 3:24 pm
Subject: <VV> CORRECTION Re:  LPG vs. Gasoline Re:  CNG was Propane


Sorry, but I misread the data and gave you the values of LNG rather 
than
LPG.  The numbers I gave in my previous post apply to liquified NATURAL 
gas
and NOT LPG.  But the concept is valid.  You have to compare the price  
per
energy value to make a valid COST comparison of different fuels (even
electricity)
Sorry about that, but at my age my fingers are quicker than my brain.
Frank "aging" Burkhard


In a message dated 3/11/2011 3:17:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
FrankCB at aol.com writes:

When  you're comparing fuel costs you have to consider $ per heating 
value,

NOT simply $ per gallon since different fuels contain different heating 

values  per gallon.  If you check this website:

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_consumption_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_consumption)

you'll see that a  gallon of LPG has only 73% as much heating value as
regular  gasoline, so if you're paying $4 per gallon of gasoline, the
equivalent
price for a gallon of LPG would be 73% x $4 = $2.92 for the same amount 
of
LPG  energy so a dollar less for a gallon of LPG is no big  saving.

Frank Burkhard


In a message dated 3/11/2011 1:19:19  P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hharpo at earthlink.net writes:

In  my  area when you buy propane (even for your barbeque) it is taxed 
as
gasoline. I  am convinced and almost ready to make my Chevy Suburban  a
dual
fuel vehicle.  Natural gas as well as gasoline at a cost of  about 
$5000
(or
the cost of about  1200 gallons of gas at the  California pricing) 
Right
now
the cost of the CNG  comparable to a  gallon of gasoline is a savings 
of $1
per
gallon.


-----Original Message-----
>From:   FrankCB at aol.com
>Sent: Mar 11, 2011 10:01 AM
>To:   thesuperscribe at yahoo.com, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re:   <VV> Propane
>
>You could always ask Tom Keosababian  about  using propane in your
Corvair.
>His "Clean  Air" Corvair ran  173 mph at Bonneville using propane  
with
twin
>turbochargers.  Of course, he DID use lots of  water   injection to 
keep
it
>all together!!
>LPG is a  great automotive  fuel.  It's just a question of the COST of 

using
>it  compared to gasoline.
>
>Frank  Burkhard
>
>
>In a message dated 3/10/2011 10:26:07  P.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
>thesuperscribe at yahoo.com  writes:
>
>Liquified  petroleum gas -- "propane " -- has been  a byproduct  of 
oil
>refining,
>but now about 55% of  propane comes from natural  gas,  according to 
the
>Propane
>Education & Research  Council  (www.propanecouncil.org).  It also says
that
>propane
>is the most widely  used  alternative fuel in the world, with 14  
million
>vehicles
>burning it,  though not many in the U.S.  Yet the  infrastructure is 
in
place
>here
>for us to use  if  we want to.
>
>
>--Tom in  Ohio
>
>--Tom   Berg
>
>
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