<VV> Nader....

Mon Mar 3 23:03:23 EST 2014

Chuck:  I dismissed almost all of Nader's pronouncements after I figured out he was so wrong about the Corvair. 

I'm sure you are correct about what he claims he invented/promoted.  As we all know claims and the reality of history are often not in agreement.  

Harvard Law School is one of the first places, if not the 1st place, to embrace the concept of a "living" Constitution.  I'd have to go check some history books to confirm what I think I remember about what I thought I knew on the topic...but not going to happen anytime soon!    But I'm sure he was a good student. 

There were judges on the other side of the bench who enabled him and others, including the lawyers for the real or imagined victumns of the Corvair.    

Oh well.  See you this weekend in Indy

Historically yours.

                       James

Message: 5Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:56:00 -0500From: "BBRT" <chsadek at comcast.net>Subject: Re: <VV> Nader and....To: virtualvairs at corvair.orgHi James,
I would emphasize that Ralph "claims" he was at least a catalyst, if not the creator..from his time at Harvard Law School
thru creation of various orgs devoted to tort law..against corporations (recently he was intereviewed and talked about GE not paying income taxes but getting back $2-3 B from gov't due to methods of his attnys-his comments), and his attempting to build a museum in CT? about tort law, envsioned by some as a self-tribute.. In his eyes, he is responsible. In my view, Nader was and is a dishonest opportunist. He did at least strongly help lead the way toward distorting tort law.
My memory may vary.... LOL!

Chuck S

----- Original Message ----- From: <ricebugg at comcast.net>;In my opinion Ralph was nothing more than a lawyer who hired a bunch of people to find what he wanted to find whether it was totally true or not, and then took it to court. By doing so he changed tort law to make somebody else responsible for all we do to ourselves, much to the satisfaction of money grubbers.&rdquo;> But the book was the tipping point, and lead to the creation of the many > regulatory agencies. Maybe even the creation of the DoT and eventually the > EPA. I don&rsquo;t remember. Had other things on my mind at the time.> The change in the litigation practices of our justice system (using the > term loosely) came about more because the legal and political philosophies > coming to the fore at the time. There was a tide change before WW2 about > &ldquo;original intent&rdquo; or &ldquo;living&rdquo; Constitution in our > nations law schools, which we are still debating today. Nader was part of > the tidal wave. He did not create it.> If I remember correctly. VBG!!!> What you say about him and his group&rsquo;s efforts later on will get no > negative comments from me. I have a certain affinity for Shakespeare when > it comes to lawyers.> Sure is good to still hear from you. Stay well and Godspeed.> Historically Yours,> James Rice>> _______________________________________________> This message was sent by the VirtualVairs mailing list, all copyrights are > the property> of the writer, please attribute properly. For help, > mailto:vv-help at corvair.org> This list sponsored by the Corvair Society of America, > http://www.corvair.org/> Post messages to: VirtualVairs at corvair.org> Change your options: > http://www.vv.corvair.org/mailman/options/virtualvairs> _______________________________________________>>> -----> No virus found in this message.> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3705/7142 - Release Date: 03/02/14> 

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Message: 7Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 00:21:53 GMTFrom: "Brian" <bmoneill at juno.com>Subject: <VV> 1965 BU wiring routeTo: VirtualVairs at corvair.orgMessage-ID: <20140303.192153.17119.1 at webmail07.vgs.untd.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Trying to help a fellow club member replace his BU switch. Car came with some hacked up wiring. New switch from
Clark's has wire that is too short to route it as originsl owner had. Assembly Manual Section 12 C6 shows some switch set up that uses shifter. Never saw anything like that on a car. This switch does in fact go into the trans. Anybody got a pix or diagram showing correct routing? I know there is cnnector in the tunnel. Thanks.____________________________________________________________Never Eat This CarbLiterally Never! 1 Easy Tip to Increase Fat Burning, Lower Blood Sugarhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/53151ce3bbba61ce332d0st02vuc

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Message: 8Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:42:55 -0500From: "Harry Yarnell \(Verizon\)" <harryyarnell at verizon.net>Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 BU wiring routeTo: "'Brian'" <bmoneill at juno.com>, <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>Message-ID: <000001cf3742$af201bc0$0d605340$@net>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

The switch on the shifter is for an
automatic.The stick shift one has a two pin connector in the tunnel, but if you saythe wiring's messed up, well...

-----Original Message-----From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of BrianSent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:22 PMTo: VirtualVairs at corvair.orgSubject: <VV> 1965 BU wiring route

Trying to help a fellow club member replace his BU switch. Car came withsome hacked up wiring. New switch from Clark's has wire that is too shortto route it as originsl owner had. Assembly Manual Section 12 C6 shows someswitch set up that uses shifter. Never saw anything like that on a car.This switch does in fact go into the trans. Anybody got a pix or diagramshowing correct routing? I know there is cnnector in the tunnel. Thanks.____________________________________________________________Never Eat This CarbLiterally Never! 1 Easy Tip to Increase Fat Burning, Lower Blood Sugarhttp://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/53151ce3bbba61ce332d0st02vuc_______________________________________________This message was sent by the VirtualVairs mailing list, all copyrights arethe property of the writer, please attribute properly. For help,mailto:vv-help at corvair.org This list sponsored by the Corvair Society ofAmerica, http://www.corvair.org/ Post messages to: VirtualVairs at corvair.orgChange your options: http://www.vv.corvair.org/mailman/options/virtualvairs_______________________________________________

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