<VV> VirtualVairs Digest, Vol 127, Issue 12

Smitty vairologist at cox.net
Fri Aug 7 14:02:38 EDT 2015


Gosh Brian, I didn't know you had a race car.   GGG

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Today's Topics:

   1. Starter Mystery (Brian)


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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 15:38:44 GMT
From: "Brian" <bmoneill at juno.com>
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Subject: <VV> Starter Mystery
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I need help with a great starter mystery. I have been using a high torque 
starter, one of the gear driven ones purchased from Clark's for many years. 
About six weeks ago I started the engine in my track car to discover an oil 
leak from the case. I removed the powertrain separated the engine and 
disassembled it. Had the oil leak professionally welded. It was small. Iit 
was one of the oil galleys inside the case. I reassembled the engine and 
reinstalled it in the car. Nothing was changed.Same transmission, same 
differential, same starter, same everything. When I went to start the car 
this starter spun the engine about twice and then there was a loud bang. Yg. 
You could actually see it stop the engine in its rotation. I remove this 
starter and took it to the local repair shop which has a great reputation. 
It was checked out and operates perfectly. I reinstalled it on the engine 
which was still in the car. I then checked to be sure that I did not have 
the distributor 180? out. Th
e thought was that maybe the engine was firing and trying to kick backwards. 
While I was double checking to be sure that the distributor was installed 
correctly and by the way it was, I used this starter to crank the engine to 
close where I thought number one firing should be. I used the range on the 
balancer bolt to turn the engine the last little bit to be sure I was 
exactly on number one. The instant I started to turn the engine with the 
ranch I could hear a click which sounded very much like the Bendix 
retracting . I tried this in number of times and always got the same 
results. I then borrowed another one of these I torque starter and got the 
same results. At this point the whole powertrain came out of the car. I 
separated the engine and using a piece of a differential as a spacer 
installed both of the starters . With both starters when power is applied 
the Bendix drive comes out, spins the engine but when power is off the 
Bendix does not retract. I thought I might have
  a problem with the ring gear so I installed another pressure plate. Same 
results to add to the confusion I then installed a stock starter. To add to 
the confusion the stock starter works perfectly. The Bendix drive those 
retract when power is off.I checked the teeth on both pressure plates and 
the starter. There are no burrs, nicks or anything else that might prevent 
the drive from retracting. At this point I'm confused. Is it possible that 
when the engine starts it will kick the Bendix drive back? Has anyone else 
experienced this? Thanks in advance for any help.
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