<VV> Fwd: heater odors

[Frank DuVal]

Seems a little strongly worded. I have seen many hose (aluminum and 
fabric/rubber) installations with the sleeve left off. Retarded owner? 
No, I did not suspect that. I suspected the foam sleeve deteriorated or 
was just left off/thrown away with the old hose. Could have been flat 
rate mechanics saving a minute, I've been working on these car that long.

Having seen smoking hoses on Corvairs, I am a little more worried about 
fire. If there is a high resistance connection between the hose and the 
post, it will not blow a hole, just get hot. Hot enough to start a fire. 
"But the aluminum does not burn at low temperatures", but the 
oil/grease/stuffing carried by mice does burn.

I have solved several dead battery complaints on Corvairs by insulating 
the hose from the starter. It happens a lot more than you know.

I did not say to not use aluminum dryer hose, just be careful of all 
hose installations.

Frank DuVal

On 3/15/2015 9:55 PM, Ron Hinz wrote:
> If that thin aluminum touches that post, it would just blow a hole in 
> the duct and nothing more.
> And, why wouldn't anyone replace that sleeve, do you think UV owners 
> are retarded or something?
> RonH
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Frank DuVal via VirtualVairs
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 6:40 PM
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re:  Fwd: heater odors
>
> Sure, it works for years, or until it touches the big positive post on
> the starter, and then the car burns to the ground, melting the dryer 
> hose.
>
> Whether one uses the original type fabric/rubber and steel wire
> reinforcement style, or the aluminum style, be sure and put the foam
> sleeve back on to keep the hose from touching the starter terminals.
> Late owners have a bracket to hold the hose away from the starter, early
> owners have to use the foam sleeve or some other insulating method.
> .
> Frank DuVal
>
> On 3/14/2015 12:45 PM, Ron Hinz via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> That aluminum dryer ducting works just fine and lasts for years.  If 
>> you are smelling exhaust, it's probably coming from leaking exhaust 
>> packings where the manifold clamps to the tubes. Do a careful job 
>> replacing the packings and it should be OK.  Be sure that the clamps 
>> are tightened to specs.
>> RonH
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ignacio Valdes via VirtualVairs" 
>> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> To: "Virtual Vairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:07 PM
>> Subject: <VV> Fwd:
>>
>>
>>> When I turn on my heater it is warm but smells like exhaust a lot so 
>>> I shut
>>> it off fast. See the attached pictures of the engine underside. The car
>>> came to me with the silver what looks like dryer pipe on what I 
>>> think is
>>> the heater pipe. I have no idea how this is supposed to work. I 
>>> think the
>>> lower shrouds are off, I don't have anything to compare it to. Not sure
>>> how to proceed with any of this and am open to suggestion.
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