<VV> COPPER? brake lines?

Frank DuVal corvairduval at cox.net
Fri Nov 11 23:41:41 EST 2016

Yes!, What he (Jim) said!

It is NOT copper!!!!!!!!!!  I already said that.

Volvo has used it for years. They are known for safety.

I am really surprised you living in the rust belt have not already 
started using this years ago. I got tired of replacing my replaced brake 
lines from salt damage. See picture in earlier post of vinyl coated line 
that rusted through in less than 8 years. I really like to avoid brake 
failure. The excitement is too great. Now I do it once and do it right. 
Drive happy.

Before scrapping the 60 motor, save the full fin cylinders... Although 
since Clarks repoped them they are not so unobtainium. The sheetmetal is 
also different, so you have no need to store it for yourself. Post on 
several of the forums. VV readership is low now.

Those 60 motors must be real tough. Many have survived longer than the 
cars they came in. That's why demand is so low.

Frank DuVal

On 11/11/2016 11:27 PM, james davis via VirtualVairs wrote:
> Quote - Properties of Copper-Nickel Brake Tubing
> The copper-nickel alloy used for brake tubing typically contains 10% 
> nickel, with iron and manganese additions of 1.4% and 0.8% 
> respectively. The product conforms to ASTM B466 (American Society for 
> Testing and Materials), which specifies dimensions, tensile strength 
> and yield strength. Formability and internal cleanliness conform to 
> specifications SAE J527, ASTM A254 and SMMT C5B (Society of Motor 
> Manufacturers and Traders). Also, the alloy meets the requirements for 
> pressure containment, fabrication and corrosion resistance for ISO 
> 4038 (International Standards Organization) and SAE J1047.
> Users of copper-nickel brake tubing in addition to Volvo [since 1976] 
> include world-class vehicle manufacturers like Rolls Royce, Lotus, 
> Aston Martin, Porsche and, most recently, Audi. Copper-nickel is also 
> used in military, fire fighting and other heavy vehicles. - end quote
> It is not new stuff.  It has been available in the US since 1991 when 
> I started using it on my Abarth 750 GT. I have been using it for fuel 
> lines, lately.
> Jim Davis
> On 11/11/2016 7:51 PM, N2VZD--- via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> I would want to make sure brake line material is rated properly for
>> pressures involved. Copper is NOT ( at least in NY state).  Same 
>> with  compression
>> fittings.
>> on another note , I wonder how many 1960 motors are getting wasted by
>> scrapping? I hate to do it , but I have no use here for it. I have 
>> heard from
>> others with the same situation. Someday Cavemen are going to be 
>> sorry...?
>> Regards, Tim Colson

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