<CORSA Chapters> Club policy about CORSA

Wed Nov 30 15:44:45 EST 2005

Hello everyone,

Corvairs Northwest (in the Seattle area) does not require membership to
CORSA. We encourage it in all of our communications such as our Web site and
newsletter as well as at our monthly meetings. 

We currently have 103 member households. Those who are not members of CORSA
state their main reasons for not joining is: a local club offering
information, support and activities meets all of their needs. Their
interests do not lie beyond a regional affiliation.

We have discussed a mandatory CORSA membership, and it doesn't pencil out.
If CORSA membership were mandatory, we would easily lose 50% of our members
which is counterproductive to Corvair owners everywhere.

Christy Miller

Corvairs Northwest

-----Original Message-----
From: chapters-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:chapters-bounces at corvair.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Scarboro
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:38 AM
To: Harry Jensen; BEllison at bbafiberweb.com; chapters at corvair.org
Subject: RE: <CORSA Chapters> Club policy about CORSA

DERBY CITY REQUIRES CORSA MEMBERSHIP---central ky corvair does not--hell we
have enough trouble collecting our own chapter dues.---greg

-----Original Message-----
From: chapters-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:chapters-bounces at corvair.org]On Behalf Of Harry Jensen
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:36 PM
To: BEllison at bbafiberweb.com; chapters at corvair.org
Subject: RE: <CORSA Chapters> Club policy about CORSA

Hiya--

Yes, there are other chapters who require CORSA membership. As Bill has
said, Tidewater does. So does your neighbor to the north: CORSA/N.C. Cactus
Corvair Club requires CORSA membership and I think Silicon Valley CORSA
does (although they have some non-CORSA members grand-fathered in), Rocky
Mountain CORSA does, and some more.

There are also some chapters who charge the non-CORSA members a higher dues
rate than the CORSA members, in part because they receive benefits from
CORSA such as insurance.

I think CORSA is unique in allowing its chapters to make the decision
themselves. I think most other national organizations require chapter
members to be national members. There are some organizations which require
local membership when they join the national (SCCA).

--H

At 10:19 AM 11/30/2005, BEllison at bbafiberweb.com wrote:
>Is there ANYONE out there with a policy/by-law like ours?  It would be
>interesting for me to share with our board how many chapters are
represented
>by this list.  Even though the list names are closed, would the list
>administrator care to share just a number of chapters currently
represented?
>
>It's hard to argue with numbers.  If we're in an extremely tiny minority,
>(maybe only chapter?) and we refuse members due to our by-laws, I'm more
>than willing to take those arguments to our board.
>
>I think the communiqué is great, and I attend the nationals when I can.  As
>long as I'm into Corvairs, I'll probably be in CORSA.  As long as I'm in
>Corsa SC, I will encourage others to join CORSA, but I can't support it
>being mandatory.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Barry Ellison
>Corsa SC 2005 President
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brown, David [mailto:David.Brown at bsci.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:33 AM
> > To: BEllison at bbafiberweb.com; chapters at corvair.org
> > Subject: RE: <CORSA Chapters> Club policy about CORSA
> >
> > Barry,
> >
> > We have nothing in our by-laws regarding this.  Although I would not
> > consider not being a CORSA member, we have some very good & helpful
> > Corvair folks in our club who are not members.  Most have made it clear,
> > for whatever reasons (some won't give a reason) that they do not want to
> > join.  Some have been members in the past, but did not renew.  I brought
> > up the idea of mandatory membership to our board several years ago & was
> > soundly rebuffed.  This is including the fact that all of the board are
> > CORSA members.  We use a little peer pressure for those who are not,
> > until they join.  We don't have a large club (about 65 members) of which
> > there are only about 6 to 10 of a core group of about 20 who can be
> > counted on to help out or participate in club functions routinely.  We
> > don't want to promote any situation that would eliminate members, and
> > like most clubs, are constantly supporting avenues that help attract new
> > members.  That being said, we manage to have about 3/4 of our membership
> > enrolled in CORSA.  We do promote it at club meetings & our newsletter,
> > but failing that, we don't see fit to force anyone to join.
> >
> > Dave
> > Corvair Houston, President
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chapters-bounces at corvair.org [mailto:chapters-bounces at corvair.org]
> > On Behalf Of BEllison at bbafiberweb.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:20 AM
> > To: chapters at corvair.org
> > Subject: <CORSA Chapters> Club policy about CORSA
> >
> > Hey Guys - just joined, but mainly for a particular question that's
> > splintering Corsa SC.  This is the perfect group to ask, w/o causing
> > havoc on Virtual Vairs.  I do NOT want to start an argument on ANY
> > forum.
> >
> > Background: I'm current President of Corsa SC, and will continue to be
> > on the board for 2 more years as a Member at Large.
> >
> > Several years ago, Corsa SC amended the by-laws to require club members,
> > after one year membership to also be a member of CORSA.  There were a
> > few members in good standing that refused so they were "grandfathered"
> > into Corsa SC.  There's one left and he pays an extra $10/year which we
> > forward on to CORSA.  It gets too complicated to explain in email all
> > the intricacies of the amendment, but you get the idea.  Basically, if I
> > dropped out of Corsa, I would not be allowed to participate with Corsa
> > SC.  (Not that I personally ever would - wonderful people, and w/o
> > CORSA, the Corvair probably won't exist in it's fullness after 10-20
> > years)
> >
> > Main question: how many of the other clubs have a similar policy/by-law?
> >
> > Our goals and our by-laws seem to conflict.
> >
> > We've had the suggestion of having anyone that refuses to join CORSA,
> > pay an extra $10 which we send to CORSA.  That seems a viable
> > alternative.
> >
> > This year, due to a prospective new member wanting to participate in
> > events with our club, but refusing to join CORSA, we sent his check
> > back.  I, and several members of our club, think this is wrong.  We're
> > discouraging this fellow Corvair owner from driving his car with other
> > people with like minds and interests.
> >
> > We've had several new members join this year, also.  Time will tell if
> > they will join CORSA.  If they refuse, we'll lose several members.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong - loosing a few members wouldn't hurt our club
> > immensely.
> > We're having almost 40 people show up for a dinner meeting practically
> > every month.
> >
> > The 2006 board will have no problem voting this policy down, which will
> > put it before the membership.  I suspect the membership would also vote
> > it down, but not 100% sure.  But then again, they voted it in.
> >
> > Funny how things change, eh?
> >
> > Thanks for you time and thoughts,
> >
> > Barry Ellison
> > CORSA SC 2005 President
> > 65 Black Corsa 140/4 Coupe - driven to work today, now that I've got the
> > heater working.
> > 65 Red Monza 140/4 Vert
> > 61 White Wagon - next project
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