CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ken Schifftner]

Brian:

I favor the move to Friday and I'm certain that working with Jim Allen and Don Wagner will bring home the desired results.

Ken Schifftner


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>From: "O'Neill, Brian M CTR USA" <brian.oneill1 at us.army.mil>
>Sent: Aug 1, 2011 2:53 PM
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>Subject: CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)
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>On Saturday during the car display, I had a meeting with Jamie Reinhardt
>the CORSA president, Jim Allen the CORSA Concours chair, Larry Claypool
>the Concours classification and operational check guy, Jason our
>regional director and Bay State member.  Also in attendance was Harry
>Jensen the CORSA Executive secretary. The purpose of the meeting was to
>review the positions of the attendees regarding our proposes convention
>schedule that had the Concours and car display on Saturday.  It was
>apparent to me that no decision regarding the proposed schedule had been
>made by the CORSA BOD.  I had a number of conversations during the week
>with some of the Board members to gage the support for our position but
>wasn't sure there would be enough votes if it came to a showdown.
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>During the week, I had discovered that this convention was only the
>second time a computer based scoring was used.  I'm not ignoring the
>1984 NJACE Parsippany convention.  However since then the Concours
>judging has exploded. There are now seven or eight sheets per car to be
>entered into the data base.  Last year's 10 people and nine hours
>project didn't happen this time. It was much, much faster this year.
>However, the posting of the scores is till a major operation.  I watched
>the posting and it is time consuming.  Practice will reduce the time
>required. Short of totally reforming the whole concours scoring system,
>there isn't much that can be done to reduce the time required.
>Reforming the concours isn't what we need to do to have a successful
>convention.
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>The first part of the meeting was all opinion about who would and would
>not come because we intended to have the Concours on Saturday after the
>moving events.  The same old 'the cars will get dirty' talk. I said we
>should concentrate on the facts not 'what ifs'. We reviewed the time
>required to post the scores and all agreed that it was better not still
>requires hours to complete.  It was obvious to me that no changes to the
>whole mutli-sheet process was going to happen.
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>In my mind, there were only a couple of options.  One was to  bow to
>pressure, change our whole schedule and have the concours first.  I
>wasn't ready to make this major concession.  Another option was to make
>it a 'take it or leave it' choice for the Board.  In spite of my
>hardnosed attitude before the convention, I knew that neither us nor
>CORSA would benefit from this.  I was searching for some sort of
>compromise. I was about to propose moving the concours to Friday when
>Jim Allen the concours chair made the same proposal. I was thrilled
>because he was willing to accept that the concours would happen after
>the moving events. The only thing he asked was that we end the Thursday
>rally around 4 PM so they can classify and operational check the cars
>that evening.  I think we can accommodate that.
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>I told the group that I thought we could live with this but that I had
>to check the  NECC folks. Personally, I support this compromise.  As I
>mentioned , it would take a complete revamping of the whole concours
>scoring business to reduce the time requirements for posting.  Doing the
>Concours on Saturday makes the trophies a real headache, one we don't
>need.  Please let me know your position on this.
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