CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ken Schifftner]

Bob:

As a point of reference, the only issue I heard from the CORSA Concours Committee was that the results may not be ready for the banquet. The new ballots and tabulating method are new to them and the wanted to ere on the side of safety.

My feeling is if the concours is moved to Friday and we "deliver" in more than enough time for the banquet (which I think will occur), we will have made our point very clear. 

It will be interesting to see how others voted...

Ken Schifftner


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>Sent: Aug 1, 2011 4:45 PM
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>Subject: Re: CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)
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>Brian commendably brought an open mind to his observations of the Denver 
>concours and his powwow with the key people.
>
>I understand all the reasons put forth for which moving the concours 
>earlier in the week.  I don't consider the "cars will get dirty" reason 
>to be legitimate, but as regards scoring, tallying et al I understand.
>
>Further, I understand that, to quote Brian, "totally reforming the 
>concours scoring system" is not an option readily available to us.
>
>Yet, as far as I am concerned, totally reforming the concours scoring 
>system is what CORSA should be doing.  If the concours, by CORSA's own 
>definitions its showcase event, cannot be conducted in a single day 
>(like very other major concours nationwide), cannot be conducted on a 
>schedule that makes it accessible to the greatest number of its members 
>(which is a weekend day), cannot be conducted where the greatest 
>promotional impact can be achieved (which is as the culmination of a 
>convention), then it is the concours that is flawed, not our convention 
>schedule.
>
>Scheduling the concours for the benefit of the organizers, instead of 
>for the benefit of the participants and the spectators, is wrong all the 
>way around.  If it is difficult for score and tally a concours on 
>Saturday, then the scoring and tallying process is the problem.
>
>After all, there was a time when CORSA routinely did its concours -- 
>with more cars than we see today -- on the weekend, and there are all 
>those other major car shows that are conducted on weekends.
>
>The CORSA concours process has grown to a preposterous state.
>
>I had hoped, when at our very first all-hands meeting early last year 
>there was near-unanimous support for the idea of a convention-ending big 
>car show that included the concours, that CORSA would embrace this 
>grassroots support for changing the status quo.  Sadly, CORSA and its 
>concours committee, despite what appears to have been a meeting with 
>Brian that was largely positive in tone, continues to be a slave to the 
>process instead of to the greater membership.
>
>Yes, moving the concours to Friday will be easier.  Yes, we can dovetail 
>the concours judging with our planned "Corvair Fun Day" activities.  But 
>the show on Saturday will be smaller as a result.  The show on Saturday 
>will be anti-climactic as a result.  The convention, instead of ending 
>with a bang, will just kinda peter out.
>
>I vote no.
>
>--Bob Marlow
>
>
>
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