CORSA 2012: Convention Concours schedule (UNCLASSIFIED)

[michel paroz]

You are the Boss so if you think the new proposal is ok, let's do it. But I
am still desapointed as showing the cars on Saturday when peoples are out of
work. It would have been a real good PR.
Michel(mike) Paroz

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:53 PM, O'Neill, Brian M CTR USA <
brian.oneill1 at us.army.mil> wrote:

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> On Saturday during the car display, I had a meeting with Jamie Reinhardt
> the CORSA president, Jim Allen the CORSA Concours chair, Larry Claypool
> the Concours classification and operational check guy, Jason our
> regional director and Bay State member.  Also in attendance was Harry
> Jensen the CORSA Executive secretary. The purpose of the meeting was to
> review the positions of the attendees regarding our proposes convention
> schedule that had the Concours and car display on Saturday.  It was
> apparent to me that no decision regarding the proposed schedule had been
> made by the CORSA BOD.  I had a number of conversations during the week
> with some of the Board members to gage the support for our position but
> wasn't sure there would be enough votes if it came to a showdown.
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> During the week, I had discovered that this convention was only the
> second time a computer based scoring was used.  I'm not ignoring the
> 1984 NJACE Parsippany convention.  However since then the Concours
> judging has exploded. There are now seven or eight sheets per car to be
> entered into the data base.  Last year's 10 people and nine hours
> project didn't happen this time. It was much, much faster this year.
> However, the posting of the scores is till a major operation.  I watched
> the posting and it is time consuming.  Practice will reduce the time
> required. Short of totally reforming the whole concours scoring system,
> there isn't much that can be done to reduce the time required.
> Reforming the concours isn't what we need to do to have a successful
> convention.
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> The first part of the meeting was all opinion about who would and would
> not come because we intended to have the Concours on Saturday after the
> moving events.  The same old 'the cars will get dirty' talk. I said we
> should concentrate on the facts not 'what ifs'. We reviewed the time
> required to post the scores and all agreed that it was better not still
> requires hours to complete.  It was obvious to me that no changes to the
> whole mutli-sheet process was going to happen.
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> In my mind, there were only a couple of options.  One was to  bow to
> pressure, change our whole schedule and have the concours first.  I
> wasn't ready to make this major concession.  Another option was to make
> it a 'take it or leave it' choice for the Board.  In spite of my
> hardnosed attitude before the convention, I knew that neither us nor
> CORSA would benefit from this.  I was searching for some sort of
> compromise. I was about to propose moving the concours to Friday when
> Jim Allen the concours chair made the same proposal. I was thrilled
> because he was willing to accept that the concours would happen after
> the moving events. The only thing he asked was that we end the Thursday
> rally around 4 PM so they can classify and operational check the cars
> that evening.  I think we can accommodate that.
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> I told the group that I thought we could live with this but that I had
> to check the  NECC folks. Personally, I support this compromise.  As I
> mentioned , it would take a complete revamping of the whole concours
> scoring business to reduce the time requirements for posting.  Doing the
> Concours on Saturday makes the trophies a real headache, one we don't
> need.  Please let me know your position on this.
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